Suggested ideas

[Constantine]

I vaguely brought up these ideas in the main chat a few times but I believe I should go in depth using this post.

Firstly we should put a larger emphasis on acknowledging this is a serious movement aiming to productively combat feminism/misandry while giving men the recognition they deserve in the eyes of this movement's founder, Aurelius. All members should for the very least aspire for change so we don't end up as a doomer circlejerk like the rest of the incelosphere has become.

Secondly we need to branch out to a larger demographic as limiting ourselves to the incel community only is a pretty heavy missed opportunity when there are way larger other groups with similar concerns and aspirations such as the rest of the manosphere and overall right wing political circles with a mutual opposition to feminism and modernity. We can achieve this by using common rhetoric among the right while also finding balance to uphold our blackpill ideology that founded our movement in the first place while also becoming more oriented towards traditionalism, the revolt against modernity, and possibly even implement some traditional religious values if the brotherhood would like to.

Finally we need to clean up some common immature behavior. I am mainly referring to nazi larping and mindless raging that I've seen a lot here lately in exchange for a rational alternative. Instead of mindlessly raging towards women we need to be capable of explaining the downsides of feminism and misandry in a critical manner. And for the nazi larping I suggest replacing it with an original fascist or right leaning movement as the founder of the fascist movement himself, Mussolini specified that fascism will be different depending on the country so we should develop an original movement designed to suit our home countries (mainly the United States). I should also state that the nazi larping could potentially make us look immature in the eyes of the political world in which we need to be involved in for our goals to get anywhere.

I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts over this, thanks for reading my ideas. Have a good day and god bless.

[Darth_aurelius]

I vaguely brought up these ideas in the main chat a few times but I believe I should go in depth using this post.

Firstly we should put a larger emphasis on acknowledging this is a serious movement aiming to productively combat feminism/misandry while giving men the recognition they deserve in the eyes of this movement's founder, Aurelius. All members should for the very least aspire for change so we don't end up as a doomer circlejerk like the rest of the incelosphere has become.

Secondly we need to branch out to a larger demographic as limiting ourselves to the incel community only is a pretty heavy missed opportunity when there are way larger other groups with similar concerns and aspirations such as the rest of the manosphere and overall right wing political circles with a mutual opposition to feminism and modernity. We can achieve this by using common rhetoric among the right while also finding balance to uphold our blackpill ideology that founded our movement in the first place while also becoming more oriented towards traditionalism, the revolt against modernity, and possibly even implement some traditional religious values if the brotherhood would like to.

Finally we need to clean up some common immature behavior. I am mainly referring to nazi larping and mindless raging that I've seen a lot here lately in exchange for a rational alternative. Instead of mindlessly raging towards women we need to be capable of explaining the downsides of feminism and misandry in a critical manner. And for the nazi larping I suggest replacing it with an original fascist or right leaning movement as the founder of the fascist movement himself, Mussolini specified that fascism will be different depending on the country so we should develop an original movement designed to suit our home countries (mainly the United States). I should also state that the nazi larping could potentially make us look immature in the eyes of the political world in which we need to be involved in for our goals to get anywhere.

I'd appreciate everyone's thoughts over this, thanks for reading my ideas. Have a good day and god bless.

I don't have time right now to engage with every one of the excellent substantive points you raised above but, suffice it to say, you and I are of one mind on these issues. I believe I already asked you this but, have you considered applying for any of the several leadership vacancies we presently have open and available in the announcements section of the forums? We need men of firm resolve, rhetorical skill and most importantly, a fanatical commitment to bringing our collective aspirational ideals to fruition. You seem to possess such qualities. PM myself or our Lieutenant, McGee if interested.

[Tovarishcel]

Very true and wise words comrade

[VH911]

the most important aspect is to stay true to the blackpill (having a solid foundation [truth]), and actively hold the ones into account who are responsible for the current situation. dont cope, better safety than sorry.
important because then 1. this movement can actually achieve something and 2. the movement wont be breakable. Obese link once said that every movement that tries to oppose the ones currently in power, will fail because the government knows to good howto break these movements. If you do what i have written here, then its not breakable, because this is a idea, and you cannot destroy the idea.
why do all these movements fail? because they had retarded ideas that obviously everyone who could add 2 and 2 together would not want to support. and thats different here.

and in regarding demographics: yes, it would have been better if less gatekeeping was done here. every man at least should be allowed here.

nazi larping: nothing wrong with it, just shows that we are for free speech.
left/right wing: it shouldnt be limited to only right wing communities. in its base idea the blackpill is rather left wing. just keep in mind that most people who are seen as leftists nowadays, are still right wing basically. right wing ideas are actually what is really cucked and harming incels. the blackpill needs to oppose both - modern left wing and modern right wing.

[Constantine]

the most important aspect is to stay true to the blackpill (having a solid foundation [truth]), and actively hold the ones into account who are responsible for the current situation. dont cope, better safety than sorry.
important because then 1. this movement can actually achieve something and 2. the movement wont be breakable. Obese link once said that every movement that tries to oppose the ones currently in power, will fail because the government knows to good howto break these movements. If you do what i have written here, then its not breakable, because this is a idea, and you cannot destroy the idea.
why do all these movements fail? because they had retarded ideas that obviously everyone who could add 2 and 2 together would not want to support. and thats different here.

and in regarding demographics: yes, it would have been better if less gatekeeping was done here. every man at least should be allowed here.

nazi larping: nothing wrong with it, just shows that we are for free speech.
left/right wing: it shouldnt be limited to only right wing communities. in its base idea the blackpill is rather left wing. just keep in mind that most people who are seen as leftists nowadays, are still right wing basically. right wing ideas are actually what is really cucked and harming incels. the blackpill needs to oppose both - modern left wing and modern right wing.

I should clarify when I speak about the right I'm preferring to the marginalized men who prefer traditional values and not the mainstream neoconservative slop. And I disagree with your take on the left as leftists are disinterested in men's struggles and are the cucks who introduced feminism. Their the people who got us into the mess that is modernity. They will also likely end up being our main opposition other than blackrock and mainstream media if the brotherhood engaged in real world activism as we would all have antifa goons throwing bricks into our windows 24/7.

And for the nazi larping I believe it demonstrates that some users aren't willing to take our movement seriously despite the founder saying this is a group for genuine action over and over again. It's difficult to make genuine empowerment and action when our members are more interested in acting like edgy 12 year olds.

Other than that I agree with or for the very least can understand your takes.

[TheRapist]

We need really good jewish connections in order to infiltrate the UN headquarters and the global governments inner spheres! Seriously, that would be a deal breaker and put a good head start to our movement

[VH911]

the most important aspect is to stay true to the blackpill (having a solid foundation [truth]), and actively hold the ones into account who are responsible for the current situation. dont cope, better safety than sorry.
important because then 1. this movement can actually achieve something and 2. the movement wont be breakable. Obese link once said that every movement that tries to oppose the ones currently in power, will fail because the government knows to good howto break these movements. If you do what i have written here, then its not breakable, because this is a idea, and you cannot destroy the idea.
why do all these movements fail? because they had retarded ideas that obviously everyone who could add 2 and 2 together would not want to support. and thats different here.

and in regarding demographics: yes, it would have been better if less gatekeeping was done here. every man at least should be allowed here.

nazi larping: nothing wrong with it, just shows that we are for free speech.
left/right wing: it shouldnt be limited to only right wing communities. in its base idea the blackpill is rather left wing. just keep in mind that most people who are seen as leftists nowadays, are still right wing basically. right wing ideas are actually what is really cucked and harming incels. the blackpill needs to oppose both - modern left wing and modern right wing.

I should clarify when I speak about the right I'm preferring to the marginalized men who prefer traditional values and not the mainstream neoconservative slop. And I disagree with your take on the left as leftists are disinterested in men's struggles and are the cucks who introduced feminism. Their the people who got us into the mess that is modernity. They will also likely end up being our main opposition other than blackrock and mainstream media if the brotherhood engaged in real world activism as we would all have antifa goons throwing bricks into our windows 24/7.

of course the mainstream lefties will be our main opposition.