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Evil

Posted: 07 Jun 2024, 07:33
by CruxGammata
It is a mistake recently promulgated by some to see the Left Hand Path in general and Satanism in particular as merely a body of esoteric knowledge and/or a collection of rituals or magical workings either of which or both may be "dipped into" for personal edification and to provide oneself with an "image".

All LHP are ordeals, they involve self effort over a period of years, they are also dark and involve the individuals who follow them going to and beyond the limits all societies impose: that is they are sinister or evil - they involve real sinister acts in the real world not a playing at sorcerers or sorceresses

Certain individuals and certain organizations who claim to belong to the LHP have tried to dispel the evil that surrounds the LHP and Satanism by denying the very real evil nature of these paths, however, what do these imitation satanists, these posturing pseuds, think Satanism is if not evil?

If Satanism is not evil, then what is?

Or more precisely, if Satan is not evil, then who is?

The true nature of evil and thus Satanism and the LHP has been misunderstood, evil is natural and necessary, it tests, culls, provokes reaction and this aids evolution.
And to repeat, Satanism is replete with evil;
It is evil;
Satanists are sinister;
Satanists are evil.
They cannot but be otherwise.

Evil, correctly defined, is part of the cosmic dialectic, it is force which is amoral, as in it is beyond the bounds of morals.
Morals derive from a limited human - or rather pseudo human perspective, and a morality is a projection by individual consciousness onto reality, nothing that is moral or immoral exists.
All morals are therfore artifice, they are abstractions, actions by individuals which are normally considered as evil are things that are done by individuals against others - that is evil acts are considered as belonging to us as a species.

Take for example the fact that it is not considered evil for a tiger to kill and eat a person, that is considered natural in the nature of the tiger.
What has been and generally is considered to be evil in humans is in general nothing more than instinct, or rather a feeling, a pre-conscious desire. Such instinct is natural, the actions which result from it can be either beneficial or not; that is the actions are not evil in themselves, they should not be judged by some artificial abstractions but rather by their consequences, by their effects, which are either positive or negative.
However, they can be positive or negative depending on circumstaces; that is the evaluation of them can vary depending on the perspective chosen, this perspective is usualy the of "time".

The only correct judgment about a particular act or action is one which takes into account the effects of that action not only in the present but also in the future, and this latter on a vast time scale.
Thus the judgment concerning such acts is essentially a-personal; it bears little or no resemblance to the emotional effects of that act in the moments of that act or in the immediate moments following that act.

Real acts of evil are those which are done consciously and these can be of two kinds:
The first are ignorant acts done from a lack of self knowledge and usually with no appreciation of their effects beyond the moment.
The second are impersonal acts done with a knowledge of the effects beyond that of the moment.
The former involve no evaluation beyond the personal feelings.
The latter involve an evaluation beyond the personal although they may still be personal acts as in of benifit to the individual.

A Satanic act of evil is of this second kind, they are affective and effective - a participation in the cosmic dialectic.
At first they may not be fully understood as in they arise from instinct in the main, but the Satanic intent behind them makes the individual more conscious, more aware of their effects both personal and supra-personal, thus enabling judgment to be cultivated.

Instinctive acts are not evil, they usually derive from immaturity.
Evil acys derive from maturity.
But immaturity is required to reach this stage, that is - there is a growth.
Morality tries to stifle instinct and thus restricts growth.
Satanic acts of evil in effect redress the balance and allow real maturity to develop.

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Re: Evil

Posted: 08 Jun 2024, 16:16
by General Alek
wow

Re: Evil

Posted: 09 Jun 2024, 12:29
by Darth_aurelius
I know the motto of Satanists for a long time was "do as thou wilt and let that be the whole of the law". This could be the motto for the modern day westernized foid as well which I really think puts things in to perspective from a moral framework standpoint.

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:27
by Angel
General Alek wrote: 08 Jun 2024, 16:16wow

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:28
by General Alek
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:27
General Alek wrote: 08 Jun 2024, 16:16wow
is it really you?

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:32
by Angel
Darth_aurelius wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 12:29 I know the motto of Satanists for a long time was "do as thou wilt and let that be the whole of the law". This could be the motto for the modern day westernized foid as well which I really think puts things in to perspective from a moral framework standpoint.
high IQ

but in a way it's not surprising, remember that a lot of LaVeyan satanism was inspired by the objectivist, egoist philosophy of jewish foid Ayn Rand.

it's true that modern secularity and feminism has allowed foids to unleash their satanic, irreligious nature, which was previously restrained by patriarchal structures. it has long been known that foids are creatures who live in immediate, worldly sensations and feelings, with no capacity for wider thought, so allowing foid rights was always going to undermine true religiosity

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:32
by Angel
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:28
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:27
General Alek wrote: 08 Jun 2024, 16:16wow
is it really you?
nah

hint:

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Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:38
by General Alek
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:32
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:28
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:27
is it really you?
nah

hint:

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SoyCuckGodOfReddit

were you also WeeWoo?

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:40
by Angel
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:38
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:32
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:28

is it really you?
nah

hint:

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SoyCuckGodOfReddit

were you also WeeWoo?
no, I don't believe so.

who's weewoo? I knew one person who tried to catfish as a foid on Discord under that name.

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:55
by General Alek
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:40
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:38
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:32
nah

hint:

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SoyCuckGodOfReddit

were you also WeeWoo?
no, I don't believe so.

who's weewoo? I knew one person who tried to catfish as a foid on Discord under that name.
who was that person?

Sadistic?

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 12:56
by Angel
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:55
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:40
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:38

SoyCuckGodOfReddit

were you also WeeWoo?
no, I don't believe so.

who's weewoo? I knew one person who tried to catfish as a foid on Discord under that name.
who was that person?

Sadistic?
Ja.

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 13:02
by CruxGammata
Darth_aurelius wrote: 09 Jun 2024, 12:29 I know the motto of Satanists for a long time was "do as thou wilt and let that be the whole of the law". This could be the motto for the modern day westernized foid as well which I really think puts things in to perspective from a moral framework standpoint.
As explicated in the Order of Nine Angles Manuscript, Satanic Influence, A Modern Tale, found in Hostia Volume 1, the ONA tradition is the only genuinely Satanic organization in the modern age.

Consider, for example, the obvious satanic sin of every other supposedly satanic organization. Subservience to a leader. In genuine Satanism, there is absolutely zero submission to anyone or anything. Die rather than submit, being one of the 21 satanic points found in Codex Seris.

In the Temple of Set, For instance, you are mandated to recognize the authority of Michael Aquino, a mere mortal, and more than likely, a charlatan. Even the modern-day Satanic Temple requires subservience to the leadership structure, as well as an implicit conformity of opinions expected on top of this subservience.

This brings up another satanic sin most supposedly satanic organizations are guilty of. Dogma. Whether it's the dogma of believing Aquino received an infernal mandate from Set, which in itself requires the suspension of critical thinking, or the dogma of conforming to a certain collection of of moral or political principles, as found in the Satanic Temple, all modern Satanic organizations require the individual to sacrifice their individuality of thought on the altars of the organization and to adopt the dogmas of the group.

This, obviously, is the complete opposite of Satanism. In genuine Satanism, and in the broader left-hand path, there is no dogma of any kind. The Satanist is at their core a radical individualist, a rebel, an outlaw, an adversary in real life. Being of such a nature, the genuine Satanist will never change their opinions or beliefs so they can assimilate into a group.

The personal guiding principles of a genuine Satanist must arise from within. They are apprehended and distilled over the course of the trials and tribulations of life, derived from experiences in the real world and the moral dilemmas confronted therein. To accept any sort of external mandate when it comes to formulating one's guiding principles is to relinquish your individuality and thus renounce your satanic quest.

In genuine, traditional Satanism, the Satanist stands alone, proud and defiant, to the end. The sinister tradition is comprised of unique individuals, all guided by their own unique sets of principles and goals. Their beliefs, like their individuality, vary from Satanist to Satanist. One may be of the extreme political right, while another may be a nihilistic anarchist. Although their values, principles, and goals may vary, what they all have in common is that they refuse to let external influences dictate what it is they believe, and are therefore still partaking of the genuine Satanic spirit.

As they make progress along the Sevenfold Way, these isms will eventually be discarded as they recognize the transient nature of archetypes and causal forms. Indeed, they will come to adopt the formlessness, hinted at in the Tao Te Ching, transcending all causal opinion as they evolve beyond a causal focus. This, however, is a later stage. Having strong individual beliefs is part of this process of growth. and the sinister initiate will find their beliefs changing as they alchemically evolve as a consequence of the trials and tribulations of the sevenfold way.

Whatever, what will remain consistent is the defiance and the independence, their attitude to life. This attitude is of a fierce, independent nature. a critical and skeptical approach to everyone and everything. The genuine Satanist will therefore never submit to the dogmas nor authority of any organization along their satanic quest.

Moreover, these supposedly satanic organizations are not a cult in any genuine sense of the word. The genuine occult left-hand path is a hard and dangerous way of life. It is not simply a hobby or community where one occasionally engages in conferences or meetings. It is dangerous, challenging, and involves real-world ordeals of the life-or-death kind. Take, for example, the Temple of Set. In order to progress along their way, all one has to do is attend a number of meetings, participate in some rituals, which, by the way, are not dangerous nor transgressive in any way, on top of having no basis in the genuine Western esoteric tradition, and read specific books and articles written by their so-called Master. Once all these simple and mundane tasks are achieved, they are bestowed with a higher grade by their Master, a reward for their conformity and submission.

What you will notice is that none of the tasks required by the Temple of Set include dangerous nor transgressive life experience. They have a attempted to make the left-hand path safe and tame and socially acceptable, and have thus removed all notions of struggle and sacrifice, which are the hallmarks of the genuine left-hand path.

In reality, the path to higher grades and thus adeptship requires real suffering, real pain, and real danger. Take, for example, the practice of the insight role expected of the initiate in the sevenfold way. To immerse oneself and infiltrate a completely unfamiliar and dangerous way of life for an extended period of time is challenging, risky, and most of all, invigorating. It is not simple, nor is it convenient, and it cannot be done from the comfort of your own home. It requires a high degree of sacrifice, giving up one's familiar surroundings and engaging in real-world scenarios that will perhaps put the initiate in danger.

Or as another example, the Grade Ritual of Internal Adept, where the Sinister Initiate is expected to live totally alone and isolated for three months in the wilderness. This, of course, is very dangerous, and very challenging. Indeed, this is a point Most do not traverse successfully, whether that be because of lack of resolve or real physical dangers encountered in the unforgiving and hungry forest.

As is evident, the Temple of Set, as well as all the other modern satanic or occult organizations, do not prescribe any ordeals that come close to the severity of what is expected in the sevenfold way. But this severity is not pointless. It is severity and danger that spur evolution, the alchemy of the self. Confrontation with danger and moral dilemmas cause specific changes to occur in the psyche of the initiate, these changes being the basis of the forbidden alchemy and sinister evolution. This is the core of real left-hand path occultism, transgression, and danger. Without these factors, there can be no evolution of the self, and no genuine occult knowledge obtained.

Re: Evil

Posted: 10 Jun 2024, 13:06
by General Alek
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:56
General Alek wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:55
Master wrote: 10 Jun 2024, 12:40
no, I don't believe so.

who's weewoo? I knew one person who tried to catfish as a foid on Discord under that name.
who was that person?

Sadistic?
Ja.
what were they doing that for?

why don't they just rope instead?

that would be a much better thing for them to do

Re: Evil

Posted: 03 Jul 2024, 20:55
by TheRapist
fuck satanists they are the animalistic side of the jewish trannies giving foids privileges in order to trample on the 99% of males in the world that aren't attractive and wealthy at the same time