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For those who dont know him, jay dire is the defacto leader of orthodox christianity on tiktok and youtube, and he presented the idea that feminism was caused by secret societies.

He says feminism is a plot of secret elites and specifically he focuses on masons. Did he offer proof? no, but he has an enormous amount of side quests and he can show to you the existence of masonries and he did read a ton of books so he can pick quotes from various selections of materials with the goal of making it seem as if what hes saying is true.

Feminism, in this view, is seen as part of a broader push toward individualism, secularism, and social destabilization. Did he offer evidence of some sort? Again no, but he may even be true here, because these indeed are effects of feminism. I dont see a way to link feminism to secularism but im sure he will have all sorts of quotes of authors to make it seem likely. I dont see also how feminism could be promoting individualism. Also this guy operates under the premise that individualism is "bad", while conveniently missing the part where he tells you why. Its typical NLP programming. This type of language resonates with typical assumptions his public tends to do.
His public is religious, and they are accustomed to blaming individualism, secularism and libralism. So I dont think he will offer any context, hes engaged in a dialogue with people who already recognize the terminology he uses.

He connects this to a larger narrative where Western culture has been gradually steered away from what he considers Orthodox Christian values. So instead of focusing on feminism, he will use that set of deceptions to construct the idea the west is bad. He can lure people in with talk of masculinity and with NLP trickery "connect the dots" and offer a broad rationalizations, in the end he will focus most of his energies to talk about how the west is crap and so on.

Also to notice, this guy is married but hes kidless. A kidless loser who didnt use his chad genetics and now he will die childless. I compared this chad to david gandy, I realized that gandy is beautiful. This idiot is ugly, even if he was born a chad, now will die childless because he followed the path of falsehood and he goes around blaming west instead of fixing issues of feminsm.

I tried to challenge him, showing him that secret societies never pushed feminism. Or, I showed even if there is a secret society that incorporates feminists ideals, that was unable to spread in society and was instead organized as private club. I showed evidence the strongest force that pushed feminism is christanity. What a shock, I think many people will not be aware of this fact. But is true, and unfortunately people like Jay Dire will not have an answer, they limit themselves ignoring it.

I don't have direct proof. but I've heard mention that Jay Dire is funded by Peter Thiel. Jay is a complete moron that matches the text-book definition of sophistry, he tries to use "clever" little word games to disparage science and promote anti-intellectualism instead. There seems to be a general campaign to promote this new wave of self-imposed stupidity and ignorance, whether it be flat-earthers generally, dummies like Joe Rogan, and frauds like Graham Hancock and the other pseudo-archeologists. The end result of this line of "thinking" has been people widespread just coming up with shit in their head without providing credible evidence then just assuming that their faulty assumptions are truth without actually testing their assertions.

Broseph_Conrad wrote: 16 Apr 2026, 20:02 I don't have direct proof. but I've heard mention that Jay Dire is funded by Peter Thiel. Jay is a complete moron that matches the text-book definition of sophistry, he tries to use "clever" little word games to disparage science and promote anti-intellectualism instead. There seems to be a general campaign to promote this new wave of self-imposed stupidity and ignorance, whether it be flat-earthers generally, dummies like Joe Rogan, and frauds like Graham Hancock and the other pseudo-archeologists. The end result of this line of "thinking" has been people widespread just coming up with shit in their head without providing credible evidence then just assuming that their faulty assumptions are truth without actually testing their assertions.

I noticed too this anti-science sentiment, they call it "soyence".

I can understand and respect the idea we should learn more humanities, learn how they complement sciences and how they allow our brain to develop areas that allow both learn language and physics. I can respect the idea science cannot explain all. But they go a step further, they say science is shit and we should not even pay attention to it. Here I disagree.

Also, flat earth can coexist with science. God can coexist. In my youth it was popular the "intelligent design" cope. I never considered it seriously but the cope was articulated in a way that allowed for the usage of science and at the same time the respect for god. So the idea they presented that god contradicts science seems not true, also according to other religious people. Im not religious.

As for Roagan, and people alike, I can say they recycled contents. None of what they presented is innovative. Sometimes they appropriated entire cultures, like the UFO one, its a full rebranding inserting their faces on it.

Im not flat earther nor UFO believer. But I am a conspiracy theory person, and I think its a plan orchestrated to open the gates of hell. What I mean by that is all normies always have the temptation to "open their mind" to incredibly dumb ideas. These guys are opening hell on earth by twisting the normies, making them believe absurdities. So that nothing is real, everything becomes possible, and normies become complacent unable to discern any truth.

I think overall is an assault against the idea A = A.

Broseph_Conrad wrote: 16 Apr 2026, 20:02 I've heard mention that Jay Dire is funded by Peter Thiel. Jay is a complete moron that matches the text-book definition of sophistry, he tries to use "clever" little word games

He is in some organization for sure. I think there also is evidence I simply didnt care to collect it. But he seems to also be advising others.

Also youre right, his method is to redirect your attention and reframe issues and events in a manner that he can present his sophistry. He will take any argument you made and in a flash he will have you defend ideas pertaining to metaphysics. He is very prepared on the topic of metaphysics, so he drags any argument he can find on this ground where he can win.

If you are not prepared to defend ideas in the field of metaphysics he will win, because he is most prepared on this type of discussion. He will try to reframe and redirect any idea, literally anything. He will end up blaming the west, and hyperfocus on the idea of "liberalism" even if the original topic under discussion was only tangentially related to these ancillary issues.

So yeah I confirm the sensation of sophistry. That guy is confirmed sophist.