I think christianity did some serious good

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Sustacel250
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The mission of civilization is to drag normies while they are kicking and screaming, out of starvation, poverty, miserable life and shit jungle savage existnce.

Obviously today christianity is a giant pile of cope and sweet sentiments.

But in the past it was ruthless. All normies went to school for the masses generously offered by christian institutions and masonry orphanages. But it wasnt a comfy school where you get told you matter and you are a sweet little snowflake and you are so special. It was a ruthless concentration camp.

Basically nun would baton your hand, sometimes breaking your fingers or literally take your finger and break it. Or they would give you permanent scars if you misbehave or dont write good, or reason poorly. Priests had it right, they first try to use logic, use passion, use drama, use reason, use morality. But wat if the normie understands no reason, has no logic, is immoral...

Then the priest would use violence, and quite brutal at that. And parents were expected to do further punishment at home, not complain and agree with the punitive measures.

For instance a schoolmate was punished by his mom this way: he would be forced to open his mouth and she would put pepper super irritating. And for 2 hours he would sit in a corner mouth open and cry and remember the pain forever.

This education method was detested by parents more than by sluts and normies. Many kids understood the moral lessons and behaved good. I lived at a point in time where all of this changed. School became more open, teachers less severe, people started to do "positive encouragement" which has its place but it should not be overdone.

I agree at times positive encouragement is the right answer. But I also think normies are immoral, you cannot positively incentivize immorality. To incentivize an immoral normie, the best way would be to conscript him in the army and send him to rape and loot competing countries, but that would be the last resort when you realize you have in your hands a derelict piece of junk out of the jungle.

Positive encouragement should be the first choice to help and support prosocial kids, and they may be requiring only that method. But some normies will be dumb, or immoral or insufferable. In that case, usage of violence should be the right answer, every single time. Christianity understood this for a while, they were used to administer the most ruthless punishments and achieve the greatest amount of civilization. It resulted in people dragged out of poverty and a shit life of superstition and eceleb worship, people were forced to stop being poor and retarded even if they didnt like it and they were screaming like babies.

Now that we stopped using violence, look around you. YOu see feminists using "therefore" arguments, adults who use "X leads to Y" and cannot think with their head. Its all going down all is crumbling.

People forgot civilization is all about taking a savage, beating him with a stick and breaking his immorality with batoning and hard slamming fists on his chin until he becomes normal.
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