While MGTOW rejected marriage, feminism embraced it.

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Other than incel community I also followed MGTOW. We always were in an online diatribe vs MGTOW. I never quite understood it. To me, calling yourself MGTOW or incel is exactly the same thing. I like that ex sluthate users call themselves "MSTOW" men sent their own way. Its the same to me.

It doesnt matter to me. Its the same community only age difference. MGTOW are going to be older on avg. Even if, theres some TGTOW teens goin their own way.

The international incels told me MGTOW is big in brazil. I didnt know that and I dont speak their tongue so I cannot confirm if true or not.

What I noticed a while ago, is we in the MGTOW sphere were doing rejection of marriage. I personally did it because I was an edgycel teencel and I didnt want society to conform me to dating norms or these mating algorithms. This can also be regarded as a cope by some incels. Because some will surely say "bt you cannot even marry". Well is fake, i can if I want to. I can if I seek some ugly woman I could have married easy if I wanted.

For instance when I was 25 I was offered the daughter of a shop owner and I didnt do it. I refused arranged marriage. Also arabcel in blackpil.club was refusing it.
We had various arguments to refuse marriage. Some older people saw the economic scam in it, they didnt want to wageslave for life for a stupid bitch that hates them. Some complained about divorce laws. Nbody likes alimony and child support. Property division was also abig thing in their community, th idea of having to split what you buy is rage fuel.

False accusations, loss of autonomy, women who judge you if you buy another wheelgun or another pump action rifle but they buy 200 gucci bags with your money. Also this stuff was taken seriously.

There was also a spinoff out of MGTOW of christian conservatives who wanted to repair marriage and "make it good" for instance banning what they relentlessly called "no fault divorce". Also a jewish spinoff of people who hated jewess princesses and didnt want to be their serf. Wrote some books for torah observant MGTOWs.

In any case we were all a legit movement. Some people also evolved in other areas such as law, one ex mgtow opened this movement: https://www.inpowermovement.org/

While we were all independently rejecting marriage for one reason or another. It happened this: gays started to argue they want marriage and they portrayed the idea of marriage as some sort of liberation or emancipation or equality. Then, trannies started to marry too. I was thinking "are you out of your mind? be glad you cannot marry or youre not expected to do it". But these people wanted marriage anyway.
And thirdly, feminists all marry. Over 64%.

Normie marriage is on the decline but if the normie is feminist the marriage is more solid longer lasting and they also marry more often.

This thing made me think about it. I came to realize marriage works for bourgeoisie types who are high in the welfare appropriation economy. I know why these feminist people marry, its a status preservation mechanism for them. Marriage instead is a tool of enslavement for me, the low status incel.

This is something that if properly interpreted destroys a lot of narratives inside of the manuresphere.

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Yes, redpill in general is very big in Brazil and so is mgtow