Love is overrated

[Stupid Clown]

As an incel, love will not serve you in the long run. Your friendships with other incels will fade and numb with time. Even if they don't, friendships are unpredictable and unreliable. Staking your will to live on them is foolish. The same can be said for family. Your family (if they don't already dislike you) could develop a disdain towards you or become apathetic at any given time.

Hatred is much better for you than love is. Hatred is something you can always rely on. Hatred won't betray you. Hatred won't cut you off. Your hatred is your life blood as an incel. You are in a war. Your life is a war. Your suicide is defeat.

[Sustacel250]

I observed normie trends and I think love is on the decline as an ideology. I mean, it surely exists in current generations but it has no major impact and is cast on the side. People who defend love ideology are 30-40 or older.

Love ideology was the big thing in the 60s as far as I understand. I was reading books about love ideology including erich fromm that was mandatory for students in university, back then it was considered such a revolutionary break from the past. Obviously no normie in our day and age will have such a spirit.

Also, mass media do not publicize love. A part of what makes successful an ideology is to have media that push it. So most media followed by people are stories of thugs or moral decay and degradation. For instance the serie "breaking bad" or "the boys" or simlar, they portray mostly morally decadent people and nobody has grandiose deluded romantic ideas.

If love became dominant again I wouldnt mind it. So long normies are remoralized I would prefer it.

I have to be honest I detested love ideology when I was younger (im 33 now). Because, when I was 15 I was in late stage sexual revolution period, and love narrative still existed but it contrasted with the new norms discussed on incel scene. I mean, we incels back then were discussing dating maket ideology and the meta-dating and strategy dating and such things.

We discussed chads and stacy and the new way of mating. But I lived in a crucial historical moment where 2 ideologies were both present at the same time in the normie public. So I have an idea what is love ideology, I also was one of the first to adapt to the new "dating market" stuff.

Reason I didnt like love ideology is Im very individualist, I dont want society to give me "rules for dating", if is love or dating ideology I didnt like both of them. What I had to say about love is society has no right to conform my incel emotions. Love was a dangerous emotional control manipulative tool. It could be in the past it was an individualist aristocrat romantic way but as always happens when you spread it in the masses it becomes polluted and loses its meaning.

[Sustacel250]

We can say obviously in the history of aristocratic europe love was this way the rich used to pretend to be superior. Result: elite vs mass super evident. The elite, even at the cost of being hypocritical, performed various ritual transgressions for example get pussy out of marriage or women fuck chads on the side.

Love of the 60s is emotional governance. Produces self-surveilance before the police state we suffer nowadays. One thing I asked myself, is maybe what defeated love was the introduction of the internet and the digital surveillance. Maybe, if can use digital surveillance and it proves superior compared to emotional governance, then this is the reason why we abandoned love ideology.

Fromm (mandatory education for normies of the past) uses formulas, he moralizes love so transforms it into a method to make a normie "adequate" according to his strict parameters. Even if, the languge at the time was emancipation theories, the result is evident it produces a way of orienting normies. The goal at the time was to "revolt vs capitalism" or something. I alwas find communist theories insufficient and they do not describe reality.

My incel point of view. I am super individualist, I dont do emotional contract, I dont accept behavior regulation or I dont want identity from the collective. I mean, I want to choose these things if they suit me in the moment. I done emotional contracts with animals, for example a crow or a family of porcupines and also with some humans. No way I will accept normies contracts.

Overall, when normies domesticated love, they lost. I think normies dont understand the history of europe, and they think they can adapt phenomena suited for the aristocrat elites to the masses. We had aristocracy for a reason and till it worked (worked for a long time) it was based on clear demarcation of normie-elite. Elite stays on top, the normie is at the bottom.

"love for the masses" was flawed you cannot democratize such a thing. Just like "misogyny for the masses" also does not works. Misogyny and love are 2 things for the elite.

[Homelesscel]

Had this feeling for years, when your parents let you down at a young age you're tend to believe no one will ever love you if your own parents never did.