International Brotherhood of Men

Do you guys think an alliance between the two of us would be good? I know we have some differences but I have noticed from examining red pill threads and famous MGTOW activists is that we share a lot of similarities and views especially Sandman and the info I gathered from the red pill archives. We share similar views on misogny, double standards, toxic femininity and the cucked system that allows it to happen.

I wanna have sex and impregnate women

Yes. Sadly they're too individualistic and do nothing to change anything.

Many MGTOWs are incels in denial

I have commented under Sandman MGTOW's twitter account, and we got a couple of recruits out of it

makes absolutely zero sense what you're talking about, because basically the whole manosphere is already sitting in the same boat.
the problem tho with mgtows is that they are coping. they are more or less part of the problem. and they will keep coping just to keep their own ego up.

Araujo wrote: 20 Dec 2025, 10:54 Yes. Sadly they're too individualistic and do nothing to change anything.

An alliance could be possible. We have a lot of common denominators

VH911 wrote: 20 Dec 2025, 11:50 makes absolutely zero sense what you're talking about, because basically the whole manosphere is already sitting in the same boat.
the problem tho with mgtows is that they are coping. they are more or less part of the problem. and they will keep coping just to keep their own ego up.

I am pointing to the fact there is a bit of a rivalry between Incels and MGTOW. I am talking about ending that rivalry and enhancing our unification.

General Alek wrote: 20 Dec 2025, 11:04 I have commented under Sandman MGTOW's twitter account, and we got a couple of recruits out of it

That right there is the enhancement of unification I am talking about. A closely maintained alliance.

General Alek wrote: 20 Dec 2025, 11:03 Many MGTOWs are incels in denial

I think I felt that way too at some point.

Yeah I tried to build connections with MGTOW on my own. Also, they tried as well.

I spoke with sandman on discord call he seemed willing to have common ground and very curious and made lots of intelligent questions.

I still am in touch with some MGTOW people, I dont dislike them. Their position is similar to the one we have, I mean is close enough. The MGTOW people will usually avoid women entirely and focus on copes. I do the same I avoid women and focus on copes. Till here we are similar.

Where we differ is that I say "im incel" and they say they are MGTOW. I say "im incel" meaning women dont like me, and so I do my hobbies knowing im not losing anything simply because women didnt want me and there was nothing to lose to begin with. MGTOW will say they do their hobbies because they choose so. Its also valid and I dont want to get autistic about it.

I do prefer focus on hobby regardless if I get pussy or not.