Lets discuss mainstream incel view of patriarchy.

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Mainstream incels learned patriarchy from a mix of redpill sources and feminist sources. Which is to say they learned feminism.

Let us establish some facts. Patriarchy is not egalitarian for men. Patriarchy is competitive and hierarchical. Most men are subordinated to other men.

Till here, is something even feminist analysis would acknowledge. Redpill would maybe mask this reality to convince young derelicte people, but they will sweet talk about the importance of hierarchy maybe in a secondary discussion.

In a patriarchy we would see women as marriage assets. Daughter represents years of investment (nutrition, protection, reputation). So it becomes a task of strategy and transactions with other people. Basically as observed by freud, a patriarch has an interest in marrying "Up" or laterally, but marry down is never a good option. This was called "hypergamy" in the past. When women are married UP, not down.

Redpill lied, and they twisted the idea of hypergamy, they started to write in their redpill coaching manuals that hypergamy is about mate selection, this is part of the effort of the redpill to use human nature argument to promote politics and religion. By using human nature argument, they can prove hierarchy is necessary because women are "hardwired" to make specific choices.
One main author in the redpill who did it is Rollo Tomassi. In the book "the rational male" Rollo presents the idea hypergamy is related to mate selection. Of course he didnt prove it, he just claimed it. Obviously Rollo is not right.

In real life, is patriarchy what created the definition of "hypergamy". Because it produces at best status matches. Or status-enhancing would be the real goal. If patriarchy was reducing status of people down to nothing, then Rothschild family would have not used it, dont you think? I mean if patriarchy was a method to "give pussy to incels", then Soros family would have not used it. Rothschild family would have used other methods if patriarchy was a dysfunctional egalitarian redistribution. These families want to succeed, not fail or be loser egalitarians.

In real life patriarchy intensified the male sexual inequality. A small % of men reproduced. Many men never reproduced at all. And this was also admitted by redpillers in the beginning, they stopped doing it with the advent of PUA coaching inspirational books that are now widely believed to be "absolute truth" by majority of mainstream incels. A patriarch gets: Multiple wives, concubines, eventual mistresses, prostitutes, legal and cultural immunity if he does extramarital sex or bends norms. Basically patriarchy never restrained "chads" on the contrary it institutionalizes their advantage.

A low status chad could even fuck a rich woman and find himself inheritor of her father fortunes.

And lets talk about "normies". Normies follow rules, they build alliances, they accept delayed gratification, they perform masculinity as defined by the system. In our days the redpill is the standard accepted idea of "masculinity" and all normies follow that thing. They do diet, they interpret the personality of the gymbro loser, learn orthodox christianity from tiktok. In a patriachal society where compliance is rewarded, these tards will do better than incels.

Incels instead lack status, no leverage, no family backing, fail or dont want to perform the roles, fail or dont want to appease patriarchal gatekeepers like andrew tate.

So incels were horridly treated in patriarchy, still are today.

Redpill claim: Patriarchy prevents hypergamy (LIE)
Incel truth: Patriarchy formalizes hypergamy.
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