I found that MGTOW misogyny isnt for me.

[Sustacel250]

There are various blends of misogyny. For instance I already criticized gynocentric misogyny of incels.is

But I also dont like MGTOW "instrumental misogyny" is what I call it.

In a nutshell, MGTOW style misogyny is about narrating women life. It is obviously evidently misogynist because these dudes take control of the narrative of a woman existence. And they act as editors, so they curate narratives focusing on failure stories, stories of regret, unhappy older women, or childless women who regret their past choices.

Now, how they narrate these woman stories is to push the politics or the religion as "solution" to what their edited internet contents narrative will be.

In this narrative from MGTOW, woman issues are neither analyzed nor understood, is used simply to advance predetermined ideological conclusions. For example: Antifeminism, right wing politics, religion, going back to an invented version of patriarchy. Women are reduced to cautionary tales rather than moral agents, while responsibility is displaced onto abstract enemies such as feminism, "the left" or "cultural Marxism".

As other incels noticed (im not the first), if we use this framework we lose ability to blame women. Women do no wrong, women are always victim, we cant blame them. And we have to redirect our issues on criticism of "the left" or "modernity" or "cultural marxism" or "the communists" or "the jews" or "the scofield bible" or "the degeneracy of the west" or "the globalists". Whatever the fuck. Its never women, its always someone else. I mean, they assume an individual has no responsibility, not even I have responsibility in this framework, they can always say I do my incel choices because porn and degeneracy and Im not actively responsible for my own life. I dont do choices im just stupid and I am told by elite jew reptilians what to do, I dont have any responsibility.

The MGTOW discourse relies on cherrypicked stories: unhappy childless women, divorced women, women expressing regret, or anecdotal "post-wall" figures. Neutral or success stories totally ignored. They unexist anything that is the opposite of what they like to represent. There are happy childfree women, there are successful women in a marriage, there are women who didnt fuck around, there are also women who did fuck around and are happy, there are women who engaged in consumerism and they now have happy stories to tell to their niece and they gift old shoes (shoes tell a story in womanland).

In any case this style of misogyny doesnt suits me. My misogyny is about how I relate to women, my subjective experience, how i locate in this situation where women are what they are. I m not doing instrumental misogyny simply because I reject their view of a human. I do want to take responsibility for my own actions. Why? because I am a free man and freedom means I will own my mistakes. Same as women, if they deal with me I will blame them. I will always blame women because I think they are human.

[SonOfElliotRodger]

If you listen to Sandman his ideology resembles us more and if you read MGTOW archives you will find that they represent our ideology more.

[Sustacel250]

If you listen to Sandman his ideology resembles us more and if you read MGTOW archives you will find that they represent our ideology more.

My favorite was barbarossa in their movement. I also liked other people, im friend wth a MGTOW antifeminist

[SonOfElliotRodger]

If you listen to Sandman his ideology resembles us more and if you read MGTOW archives you will find that they represent our ideology more.

My favorite was barbarossa in their movement. I also liked other people, im friend wth a MGTOW antifeminist

How do you feel about Andrew Tate and Hamza Ahmed?