Gaining respect

[ih8vmen]

Violent movements such as BLM gained societal influence through their rampages. However this is a very unified group, with membership determined only by skin color. Incels are much more diverse, separated genetically and geographically, and will never be able to attain the same amount of cohesion at scale. Divisions between incels are evident by powerstruggles between races, age brackets, wealth/income, education, and so on (currycell, blackcell, neet, etc.).

Feminism can also be seen as a movement hindered by the different strains of it (radical, anarchistic, lesbian, etc.). Nevertheless they have enjoyed much success in shaping society through politics and teaching of the younger generations of women. This may be partly explained by their non-violent means. More violent movements like Antifa lost a lot of momentum when it was classified as a terrorist group, and is a relative failure in comparison to feminism.

Incels don’t get much respect from the mainstream lately, being described with words like “entitled” and “extremistic”. This can cause resistance in bringing about societal change. If it was possible to point towards positive and healthy aspects of inceldom, this might help in containing and extinguishing the MSM propaganda, and sway the opinions of the public at large. Therefore my question is: how can one contribute to increasing the societal level of esteem and respect towards the incel cause?

[Darth_aurelius]

Violent movements such as BLM gained societal influence through their rampages. However this is a very unified group, with membership determined only by skin color. Incels are much more diverse, separated genetically and geographically, and will never be able to attain the same amount of cohesion at scale. Divisions between incels are evident by powerstruggles between races, age brackets, wealth/income, education, and so on (currycell, blackcell, neet, etc.).

Feminism can also be seen as a movement hindered by the different strains of it (radical, anarchistic, lesbian, etc.). Nevertheless they have enjoyed much success in shaping society through politics and teaching of the younger generations of women. This may be partly explained by their non-violent means. More violent movements like Antifa lost a lot of momentum when it was classified as a terrorist group, and is a relative failure in comparison to feminism.

Incels don’t get much respect from the mainstream lately, being described with words like “entitled” and “extremistic”. This can cause resistance in bringing about societal change. If it was possible to point towards positive and healthy aspects of inceldom, this might help in containing and extinguishing the MSM propaganda, and sway the opinions of the public at large. Therefore my question is: how can one contribute to increasing the societal level of esteem and respect towards the incel cause?

Very thoughtful, circumspect and high IQ post my comrade. I commend you for your effort and your time in conceiving such an insightful and edifying comment. I agree with your observations regarding the relationship between the motives and methods of various political groups and the perceptions of the public writ large as they are calibrated on the basis of optics filtered through media. BLM is a great example of how not to create and grow a movement, though I think that they ran the risk of having the fringe represent the center and thereby making them all seem as though they were just as radical and amenable to utilizing instrumental violence.

As for how these concerns relate to the incel movement I would make several points. Firstly, this is and always has been about regaining control of the messaging and the narrative. Right now, the narrative on incels is exclusively controlled by the main stream jew run media and it is anathema to our interests and contemptuous of our aspirations. We need to modulate this message by developing and delivering talking points which emphasize human rights, the plight of those who suffer as a consequence of isolation, depression and concomitantly higher rates of suicide and other concerns. Secondly, the IBM must be seen as a legitimate and lawful organization that is dedicated to vindicating the rights of all men. We can assimilate incel men under the rubric of men more generally but if we mention our true motives then the jews will impugn our credibility and construe us as radicals or worse. Finally, it is essential that those who do speak on behalf our organization are articulate, intelligent, sufficiently normative in their sensibilities and otherwise able to engage with a very large segment of the general demographic. This is a very superficial exposition of my thoughts on the matter but it does give you some sense of what we are going to be doing.

[TheRapist]

Violent movements such as BLM gained societal influence through their rampages. However this is a very unified group, with membership determined only by skin color. Incels are much more diverse, separated genetically and geographically, and will never be able to attain the same amount of cohesion at scale. Divisions between incels are evident by powerstruggles between races, age brackets, wealth/income, education, and so on (currycell, blackcell, neet, etc.).

Feminism can also be seen as a movement hindered by the different strains of it (radical, anarchistic, lesbian, etc.). Nevertheless they have enjoyed much success in shaping society through politics and teaching of the younger generations of women. This may be partly explained by their non-violent means. More violent movements like Antifa lost a lot of momentum when it was classified as a terrorist group, and is a relative failure in comparison to feminism.

Incels don’t get much respect from the mainstream lately, being described with words like “entitled” and “extremistic”. This can cause resistance in bringing about societal change. If it was possible to point towards positive and healthy aspects of inceldom, this might help in containing and extinguishing the MSM propaganda, and sway the opinions of the public at large. Therefore my question is: how can one contribute to increasing the societal level of esteem and respect towards the incel cause?

Very thoughtful, circumspect and high IQ post my comrade. I commend you for your effort and your time in conceiving such an insightful and edifying comment. I agree with your observations regarding the relationship between the motives and methods of various political groups and the perceptions of the public writ large as they are calibrated on the basis of optics filtered through media. BLM is a great example of how not to create and grow a movement, though I think that they ran the risk of having the fringe represent the center and thereby making them all seem as though they were just as radical and amenable to utilizing instrumental violence.

As for how these concerns relate to the incel movement I would make several points. Firstly, this is and always has been about regaining control of the messaging and the narrative. Right now, the narrative on incels is exclusively controlled by the main stream jew run media and it is anathema to our interests and contemptuous of our aspirations. We need to modulate this message by developing and delivering talking points which emphasize human rights, the plight of those who suffer as a consequence of isolation, depression and concomitantly higher rates of suicide and other concerns. Secondly, the IBM must be seen as a legitimate and lawful organization that is dedicated to vindicating the rights of all men. We can assimilate incel men under the rubric of men more generally but if we mention our true motives then the jews will impugn our credibility and construe us as radicals or worse. Finally, it is essential that those who do speak on behalf our organization are articulate, intelligent, sufficiently normative in their sensibilities and otherwise able to engage with a very large segment of the general demographic. This is a very superficial exposition of my thoughts on the matter but it does give you some sense of what we are going to be doing.

But how do we find such an articulate, keen and intelligent proxy for our case when mostly incels have been socially, mentally, cognitively and academically maimed due to the forced isolation by this gynocentric society?

We are truly on the worst end with having no army to our cause that can efficiently hoist our goals..... the only modicum of hope we could have is to recruit a multimillionaire incel or jew with connections like Bezos or Musk but that's almost impossible since they would rather betabuxx than change the gynocentric statu quo

[Darth_aurelius]

Violent movements such as BLM gained societal influence through their rampages. However this is a very unified group, with membership determined only by skin color. Incels are much more diverse, separated genetically and geographically, and will never be able to attain the same amount of cohesion at scale. Divisions between incels are evident by powerstruggles between races, age brackets, wealth/income, education, and so on (currycell, blackcell, neet, etc.).

Feminism can also be seen as a movement hindered by the different strains of it (radical, anarchistic, lesbian, etc.). Nevertheless they have enjoyed much success in shaping society through politics and teaching of the younger generations of women. This may be partly explained by their non-violent means. More violent movements like Antifa lost a lot of momentum when it was classified as a terrorist group, and is a relative failure in comparison to feminism.

Incels don’t get much respect from the mainstream lately, being described with words like “entitled” and “extremistic”. This can cause resistance in bringing about societal change. If it was possible to point towards positive and healthy aspects of inceldom, this might help in containing and extinguishing the MSM propaganda, and sway the opinions of the public at large. Therefore my question is: how can one contribute to increasing the societal level of esteem and respect towards the incel cause?

Very thoughtful, circumspect and high IQ post my comrade. I commend you for your effort and your time in conceiving such an insightful and edifying comment. I agree with your observations regarding the relationship between the motives and methods of various political groups and the perceptions of the public writ large as they are calibrated on the basis of optics filtered through media. BLM is a great example of how not to create and grow a movement, though I think that they ran the risk of having the fringe represent the center and thereby making them all seem as though they were just as radical and amenable to utilizing instrumental violence.

As for how these concerns relate to the incel movement I would make several points. Firstly, this is and always has been about regaining control of the messaging and the narrative. Right now, the narrative on incels is exclusively controlled by the main stream jew run media and it is anathema to our interests and contemptuous of our aspirations. We need to modulate this message by developing and delivering talking points which emphasize human rights, the plight of those who suffer as a consequence of isolation, depression and concomitantly higher rates of suicide and other concerns. Secondly, the IBM must be seen as a legitimate and lawful organization that is dedicated to vindicating the rights of all men. We can assimilate incel men under the rubric of men more generally but if we mention our true motives then the jews will impugn our credibility and construe us as radicals or worse. Finally, it is essential that those who do speak on behalf our organization are articulate, intelligent, sufficiently normative in their sensibilities and otherwise able to engage with a very large segment of the general demographic. This is a very superficial exposition of my thoughts on the matter but it does give you some sense of what we are going to be doing.

But how do we find such an articulate, keen and intelligent proxy for our case when mostly incels have been socially, mentally, cognitively and academically maimed due to the forced isolation by this gynocentric society?

We are truly on the worst end with having no army to our cause that can efficiently hoist our goals..... the only modicum of hope we could have is to recruit a multimillionaire incel or jew with connections like Bezos or Musk but that's almost impossible since they would rather betabuxx than change the gynocentric statu quo

At the risk of sounding slightly pompous and perhaps more then slightly self conceited, I would advance myself as a paragon of charisma, eloquence and poise in the face of a hostile audience. I am a trained lawyer and an experienced university professor who has lectured to all manner of audiences over the last decade. What you say is generally true about incel men and there are certain axiomatic principles that abide at all times with all comrades but like any other population, there is a median and a wide ranging distribution and you will find certain individuals who are exceptional in ways that confer utility function to the movement.