International Brotherhood of Men

Ok basically you hear the term "class" as a teen and you hear "class analysis" and I was already reasoning in terms of classes on my own. For instance I wanted to declare war against intellectuals, journalists and artists.

I thought, for a while, that marxism specifically was a living flexible tool. Reality check: it s a rigid scheme, almost unusable, they have no scientific tools despite they boast "marxism is a science" (no it isnt) and the "class analysis" is nonexistent in marxism.

How I thought initially class analysis could have worked: starting from aristotle we know categories and metaphysics can be used as "tool" to organize knowledge by generality and specificity: genus and differentia. Also from aristotle we know we can classify living things, actions, social groups, so long we use same principles.
I would derive from here that we can generate "new classes" and sub-classes as well. Basically, we can make patterns and systems and world models. Simple as, scientists do it daily.

For marxism instead "class" is much more like a restricted concept. They think is fixed economics model. Basically marxism starts with the assumption that their "economic" model is correct and absolute and total truth. So I was told by these scum marxists that my interpretations were not "valid" because they do not match the formal model. I felt it like a moral offense.

Now, there are concepts that I could use broadly like for example "means of production" and "social consciousness" and "power" (analysis of power that leftists do is pretty good) and others. The problem is in the marxist books the idea of "class" is under-theorized. Its not even explained much at all, its left to the fantasy of the reader. In science it isnt like this.

So this is the main problem I have with marxism and specifically academia type. Because all they do is interpret texts and do no theory at all. So these people who call academia "the cathedral" I am afraid are correct. You cant say a thing about it. All they do is offer a fragmented enormous machine that interprets "sacred texts".

In any case, thanks to chatGPT I got some bbook recommendations that could help me out, because some people (rare) did find ways to study classes with a flexible attitude.

Also to consider, I lived marxism when I was a teencel and in my days it still "made sense", while today is all about nonsense like whitey vs browny.

Modern "marxists" are all just degenerated jealous brainwashed npc liberals.

VH911 wrote: 24 Jul 2025, 04:25 Modern "marxists" are all just degenerated jealous brainwashed npc liberals.

That is absolutely correct but I instantly searched into the older ones. I dont think the older ones were any better. I think, of the various groups I payed attention to I like only one and it is red brigades. Red brigades by the way was incel-type and did not make a mystery about it. No foids except one that was the girlfriend of the founder. But incels took control, and tossed the leader out as first thing. Then instead of mumblemaxing in academia, they went to target managers broke their legs and so on. I mean, thats pretty badass regardless if you like communism or not.

In my case, I was mostly noticing how I think their class analysis is completely fake. Its a thing they say often "we are scientific, we want to do class analysis". Suuure... then why a bunch of workers at red brigades had to toss out the intellectuals before doing real actions ? they needed no marxist framework at all. Any honest person will notice what they did needed absolutely no marxist framework. It worked because they tossed out intellectuals, not because they got organized by them.

There were even anti-feminist marxists. But i forgot the names.

And, what you can see in modern marxists is that they are basically midwits. They use their toy-language to sound smart.

VH911 wrote: 24 Jul 2025, 05:13 There were even anti-feminist marxists. But i forgot the names.

And, what you can see in modern marxists is that they are basically midwits. They use their toy-language to sound smart.

To be honest majority was "anti feminist" or you could consider them more like "anti woman". But its broad, its also different context. Because in the past woman was broadly acknowledged and understood as "a conservative force" because all foids would side with elites and powers like the church. For instance in my country communism was stopped the first time (with american intervention as well) thanks to woman vote. Because all foids were organized by catholics, and all of them loyal to the pope. Communists went against foids, lost. Because if youre against foids you automatically lose.

So, today you maybe can hear people saying "women are the secret weapon of conservatives" at best, but in the past everyone knew foid = on the side of elites. It was simply broadly acknowledged so its not really fair to say they were anti feminist, more like "anti woman"

@Sustacel250 which country?