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KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:07 It is expensive. Honestly it’s bullshit that us incels are forced to choose between prostitutes, OF/porn/fapping, and being celibate. We should be able to fuck bitches for free cause the bitches really like/love us and want to give us pussy. Being an incel is a fucking curse that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy.
It wasn't always expensive by the way. The expensiveness comes from women having so many alternative income streams - including simps. If you look up ancient sources, it says that prostitutes were as cheap as loaves of bread. So you could either buy a bread or pay for a prostitute. I suspect that was the case until feminism took over. Now they have an abundance of options, so that drives the prices up.
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Vincent wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:43
KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:07 It is expensive. Honestly it’s bullshit that us incels are forced to choose between prostitutes, OF/porn/fapping, and being celibate. We should be able to fuck bitches for free cause the bitches really like/love us and want to give us pussy. Being an incel is a fucking curse that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy.
It wasn't always expensive by the way. The expensiveness comes from women having so many alternative income streams - including simps. If you look up ancient sources, it says that prostitutes were as cheap as loafs of bread. So you could either buy a bread or pay for a prostitute. I suspect that was the case until feminism took over. Now they have an abundance of options, so that drives the prices up.
Wtf pussy the same price as a loaf of bread? That sounds like heaven on earth. That’s why I always say I was born during the wrong time period. Fuck all this modern technology, I wish I was born in ancient times back when guys like me could still get some pussy!
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KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:59
Vincent wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:43
KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:07 It is expensive. Honestly it’s bullshit that us incels are forced to choose between prostitutes, OF/porn/fapping, and being celibate. We should be able to fuck bitches for free cause the bitches really like/love us and want to give us pussy. Being an incel is a fucking curse that I wouldn’t wish upon my worst enemy.
It wasn't always expensive by the way. The expensiveness comes from women having so many alternative income streams - including simps. If you look up ancient sources, it says that prostitutes were as cheap as loafs of bread. So you could either buy a bread or pay for a prostitute. I suspect that was the case until feminism took over. Now they have an abundance of options, so that drives the prices up.
Wtf pussy the same price as a loaf of bread? That sounds like heaven on earth. That’s why I always say I was born during the wrong time period. Fuck all this modern technology, I wish I was born in ancient times back when guys like me could still get some pussy!
One reason probably was that most men were able to get a wife which made paying for it unnecessary.
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KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:59 Wtf pussy the same price as a loaf of bread? That sounds like heaven on earth. That’s why I always say I was born during the wrong time period. Fuck all this modern technology, I wish I was born in ancient times back when guys like me could still get some pussy!
Yep. It used to be so cheap that even slaves and beggars could affort it. Christianity might have made it more expensive later on, but that is how it was back then. Also you could have almost any age you wanted, since it was before christian morality and feminism.
In ancient Rome, prostitution was legal and widespread, and the price varied enormously depending on the prostitute’s status, appearance, and clientele. The lowest-class prostitutes (called meretrices or lupae) often worked in taverns, brothels, or on the street and charged extremely little — often the price of a loaf of bread or a cup of wine.

Contemporary sources back this up:

The Roman satirist Martial (1st century AD) mentions prostitutes charging one as (a small bronze coin), which was about the price of a loaf of bread or a cup of cheap wine.
Senec and Juvenal also describe the trade as so cheap and accessible that even slaves and beggars could afford it.

However, there were also much more expensive prostitutes — courtesans or hetaerae — who served wealthy Romans and could charge fortunes, living in luxury.

So yes, for the lowest class of Roman prostitutes, the saying “as cheap as a loaf of bread” is accurate. But it applied only to the poorest and most common end of the spectrum.
We would have it again like that, if men took control of women as they used to. And if sexual morality changed to how it used to be. Of course if women can go to university and have a million options, you pay 200 $ instead of the price for a loaf of bread.
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VH911 wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 21:01 One reason probably was that most men were able to get a wife which made paying for it unnecessary.
It's several reasons. Societal acceptability of prostitution (different morality back then), women's lack of options and men's abundance of options. Supply and demand.
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Vincent wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 21:40
KingDavid wrote: 23 Oct 2025, 20:59 Wtf pussy the same price as a loaf of bread? That sounds like heaven on earth. That’s why I always say I was born during the wrong time period. Fuck all this modern technology, I wish I was born in ancient times back when guys like me could still get some pussy!
Yep. It used to be so cheap that even slaves and beggars could affort it. Christianity might have made it more expensive later on, but that is how it was back then. Also you could have almost any age you wanted, since it was before christian morality and feminism.
In ancient Rome, prostitution was legal and widespread, and the price varied enormously depending on the prostitute’s status, appearance, and clientele. The lowest-class prostitutes (called meretrices or lupae) often worked in taverns, brothels, or on the street and charged extremely little — often the price of a loaf of bread or a cup of wine.

Contemporary sources back this up:

The Roman satirist Martial (1st century AD) mentions prostitutes charging one as (a small bronze coin), which was about the price of a loaf of bread or a cup of cheap wine.
Senec and Juvenal also describe the trade as so cheap and accessible that even slaves and beggars could afford it.

However, there were also much more expensive prostitutes — courtesans or hetaerae — who served wealthy Romans and could charge fortunes, living in luxury.

So yes, for the lowest class of Roman prostitutes, the saying “as cheap as a loaf of bread” is accurate. But it applied only to the poorest and most common end of the spectrum.
We would have it again like that, if men took control of women as they used to. And if sexual morality changed to how it used to be. Of course if women can go to university and have a million options, you pay 200 $ instead of the price for a loaf of bread.
Christianity didn’t do shit, if anything it was Satan and the pagans who caused the price of pussy to inflate over time. True Christian morality is against feminism idk how many times I have to explain this. The powers that be in this world that caused feminism, hypergamy, hoeflation etc. are NOT Christian.
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True Christian morality versus New World Order satanic bullshit morality. The “before feminism” in the first picture is true Christian Bible-based morality.
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KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 20:07 Christianity didn’t do shit, if anything it was Satan and the pagans
Dude, those WERE pagans.
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Vincent wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:14
KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 20:07 Christianity didn’t do shit, if anything it was Satan and the pagans
Dude, those WERE pagans.
Believing in Jesus and the Bible isn’t paganism it’s the opposite of paganism.
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Vincent wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:14
KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 20:07 Christianity didn’t do shit, if anything it was Satan and the pagans
Dude, those WERE pagans.
Have some pagans/Satanists infiltrated Christian churches? Yes, but that doesn’t discredit and dismiss Jesus’s life, death, resurrection, the Holy Bible etc.
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KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:22
Vincent wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:14
KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 20:07 Christianity didn’t do shit, if anything it was Satan and the pagans
Dude, those WERE pagans.
Have some pagans/Satanists infiltrated Christian churches? Yes, but that doesn’t discredit and dismiss Jesus’s life, death, resurrection, the Holy Bible etc.
Wtf THERE WERE NO CHURCHES BACK THEN, THAT WAS BEFORE JESUS

JESUS CHRIST FUCKING LORD!
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Vincent wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 22:17
KingDavid wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:22
Vincent wrote: 24 Oct 2025, 21:14
Dude, those WERE pagans.
Have some pagans/Satanists infiltrated Christian churches? Yes, but that doesn’t discredit and dismiss Jesus’s life, death, resurrection, the Holy Bible etc.
Wtf THERE WERE NO CHURCHES BACK THEN, THAT WAS BEFORE JESUS

JESUS CHRIST FUCKING LORD!
Pagans were around in ancient times before Jesus that’s true. The Old Testament says a lot about them. What’s your point? These ancient Canaanite Babylonian cults are still around today they just evolved into different forms.
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DUDE talking to you is tiring. This is our conversation:

Vincent: Prostitutes in antiquity used to be as cheap as loafs of bread. Christianity might have made it more expensive later on due to changing morals.

KingDavid: Christianity didn't do shit, those were the pagans.

Vincent: Those WERE pagans back then.

KingDavid: Because pagans have infiltrated christian churches.

Vincent: THERE WERE NO CHURCHES BACK THEN, THAT WAS BEFORE JESUS

KingDavid: That's true. What's your point?

Vincent: THAT PROSTITUTES USED TO BE AS CHEAP AS LOAFS OF BREAD IN ANTIQUITY - BEFORE CHRISTIANITY.
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I give up mate. Talking to you is impossible KingDavid.
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Nowadays the order of the family is casual sex first and looking after children later if the woman doesn't get an abortion.
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Vincent wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 21:30 I give up mate. Talking to you is impossible KingDavid.
I was just confused cause it sounded like you were saying Christians are pagan. I was like wtf being a Christian is the opposite of being a pagan.
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Vincent wrote: 26 Oct 2025, 21:28 DUDE talking to you is tiring. This is our conversation:

Vincent: Prostitutes in antiquity used to be as cheap as loafs of bread. Christianity might have made it more expensive later on due to changing morals.

KingDavid: Christianity didn't do shit, those were the pagans.

Vincent: Those WERE pagans back then.

KingDavid: Because pagans have infiltrated christian churches.

Vincent: THERE WERE NO CHURCHES BACK THEN, THAT WAS BEFORE JESUS

KingDavid: That's true. What's your point?

Vincent: THAT PROSTITUTES USED TO BE AS CHEAP AS LOAFS OF BREAD IN ANTIQUITY - BEFORE CHRISTIANITY.
Maybe Christianity naturally causes the prices of pussy to inflate. Maybe not. Maybe it was phallic penis worshippers who secretly conspired to artificially raise the prices using unknown covert means.
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KingDavid wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 09:59 I was just confused cause it sounded like you were saying Christians are pagan. I was like wtf being a Christian is the opposite of being a pagan.
No, I said people back when prostitution was cheap were pagans. I know that Christians aren't pagans, of course.
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Vincent wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 10:27
KingDavid wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 09:59 I was just confused cause it sounded like you were saying Christians are pagan. I was like wtf being a Christian is the opposite of being a pagan.
No, I said people back when prostitution was cheap were pagans. I know that Christians aren't pagans, of course.
Oh I see what you’re saying. Yea you’re right actually they were pagans. I was reading The Story of Civilization by Will Durant and many of the ancient pagan primitive tribes didn’t have any of the modern rules we have now regarding sex. Men would have multiple wives, they’d share their wives and fuck each other’s wives etc. The “one husband, one wife” concept actually originated with European Christians.
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KingDavid wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 10:30
Vincent wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 10:27
KingDavid wrote: 27 Oct 2025, 09:59 I was just confused cause it sounded like you were saying Christians are pagan. I was like wtf being a Christian is the opposite of being a pagan.
No, I said people back when prostitution was cheap were pagans. I know that Christians aren't pagans, of course.
Oh I see what you’re saying. Yea you’re right actually they were pagans. I was reading The Story of Civilization by Will Durant and many of the ancient pagan primitive tribes didn’t have any of the modern rules we have now regarding sex. Men would have multiple wives, they’d share their wives and fuck each other’s wives etc. The “one husband, one wife” concept actually originated with European Christians.
That is my entire point. Monogamy was not as strictly expected back then. Actually it was expected of men to go to prostitutes. Christianity changed that.
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