Supreme Misogynist wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2024 12:51 pm
You still haven't addressed the core issue:
1.)Does your sect of Islam teach that women are not human beings like men in accordance with the Blackpill? Yes or No.
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
Your questions are completely irrelevant as they don't permit for the possibility of redemption through a life of suffering and the purifying power of excruciating pain. Read my novel which I have posted here in the forums if you want a better and more nuanced sense of the ideological particularities of this movement. Rest assured, women who have been promiscuous harlots and have lived their lives in a degenerate manner will be made to suffer immensely for their transgressions.
I suggest you go and study the achievements and exploits of the Caliphate (ISIS) and see how they treat whores and other impious women. As stated above, I full concur with their interpretation of both Quranic injunctions regarding disciplining of unchaste women and the relevant Hadiths. But I will leave you to your Blackpill conception of the world if you insist.
"Your questions are completely irrelevant as they don't permit for the possibility of redemption through a life of suffering and the purifying power of excruciating pain."
My questions appear meaningless to you because you seem to believe that we can have an ethical discussion about women without defining their ontological status first. We can't do that because ontology precedes ethics. That's why I asked you many times during our discussion to clarify your position on this issue, but you never gave me a clear answer.
In my view, it is meaningless to talk about the redemption of whores because women are not classified as full human beings in Blackpill Anthropology in the first place and therefore redemption is not an applicable moral concept for them.
I hope this explanation clarifies things. Now I'll ask you again:
1.)Does your sect of Islam teach that women are not human beings like men in accordance with the Blackpill? Yes or No.
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
1. Yes, it relegates them to the status of chattel property akin to domesticated animals to be held and controlled by their husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles and any other male relations in their lives and in full accord with the precepts of a rigid patriarchal socio-cultural construct.
2. No, although most permutations of Islam do permit such possibilities.
Captain, Commanding Officer and Founding Father of the Incel Movement
Your questions are completely irrelevant as they don't permit for the possibility of redemption through a life of suffering and the purifying power of excruciating pain. Read my novel which I have posted here in the forums if you want a better and more nuanced sense of the ideological particularities of this movement. Rest assured, women who have been promiscuous harlots and have lived their lives in a degenerate manner will be made to suffer immensely for their transgressions.
I suggest you go and study the achievements and exploits of the Caliphate (ISIS) and see how they treat whores and other impious women. As stated above, I full concur with their interpretation of both Quranic injunctions regarding disciplining of unchaste women and the relevant Hadiths. But I will leave you to your Blackpill conception of the world if you insist.
"Your questions are completely irrelevant as they don't permit for the possibility of redemption through a life of suffering and the purifying power of excruciating pain."
My questions appear meaningless to you because you seem to believe that we can have an ethical discussion about women without defining their ontological status first. We can't do that because ontology precedes ethics. That's why I asked you many times during our discussion to clarify your position on this issue, but you never gave me a clear answer.
In my view, it is meaningless to talk about the redemption of whores because women are not classified as full human beings in Blackpill Anthropology in the first place and therefore redemption is not an applicable moral concept for them.
I hope this explanation clarifies things. Now I'll ask you again:
1.)Does your sect of Islam teach that women are not human beings like men in accordance with the Blackpill? Yes or No.
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
1. Yes, it relegates them to the status of chattel property akin to domesticated animals to be held and controlled by their husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles and any other male relations in their lives and in full accord with the precepts of a rigid patriarchal socio-cultural construct.
2. No, although most permutations of Islam do permit such possibilities.
I see. It looks like we've reached an agreement on this issue. Thank you for this discussion.
Supreme Misogynist wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 am
"Your questions are completely irrelevant as they don't permit for the possibility of redemption through a life of suffering and the purifying power of excruciating pain."
My questions appear meaningless to you because you seem to believe that we can have an ethical discussion about women without defining their ontological status first. We can't do that because ontology precedes ethics. That's why I asked you many times during our discussion to clarify your position on this issue, but you never gave me a clear answer.
In my view, it is meaningless to talk about the redemption of whores because women are not classified as full human beings in Blackpill Anthropology in the first place and therefore redemption is not an applicable moral concept for them.
I hope this explanation clarifies things. Now I'll ask you again:
1.)Does your sect of Islam teach that women are not human beings like men in accordance with the Blackpill? Yes or No.
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
1. Yes, it relegates them to the status of chattel property akin to domesticated animals to be held and controlled by their husbands, fathers, brothers, uncles and any other male relations in their lives and in full accord with the precepts of a rigid patriarchal socio-cultural construct.
2. No, although most permutations of Islam do permit such possibilities.
I see. It looks like we've reached an agreement on this issue. Thank you for this discussion.
Of course and it is always a pleasure to engage with someone who seems to have a deeper understanding of these matters then the very superficial level of comprehension that characterizes the mindset and analytical capacity of many of those in the incelosphere, especially that mindless rabble over on incels.is.
Captain, Commanding Officer and Founding Father of the Incel Movement
Supreme Misogynist wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 am
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
2. No, although most permutations of Islam do permit such possibilities.
What is your sect of Islam Aurelius? I am actually interested in Islam.
Supreme Misogynist wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2024 5:53 am
2.)Does your sect of Islam allow whores to become wives and mothers if they convert to Islam? Yes or No.
2. No, although most permutations of Islam do permit such possibilities.
What is your sect of Islam Aurelius? I am actually interested in Islam.
I don't embrace a particular sect of Islam but rather take elements from various different interpretations and amalgamate them together, which I realize is highly unorthodox but it isn't in any way tantamount to blasphemy or apostacy since I am always suitably reverential towards the most militant forms of Islam (Wahhabism and Salafism).
Before I embraced the precepts of the Islamic faith, I was an atheist but before that I was a Catholic. During my time in the Catholic Church I found that it was far more spiritually invigorating and intrinsically fulfilling to not have to circumscribe myself to the narrow dogmatic teachings of the Vatican, which were often incredibly conducive to leading a soyboy lifestyle, but rather interpreting doctrine myself. As such, I eventually embraced a personalized form of Catholicism which was most similar to the faith of the holy Crusaders who took Jerusalem from the Muslim armies during the First Crusade and which permitted severe punishment for apostates, infidels and especially whores.
I recommend that any future candidate member of any religion try to take a deep introspective look at himself and then reconcile his spiritual needs with the various permutations of the faith, though ultimately we all must find our own path and complete this journey for ourselves.
Captain, Commanding Officer and Founding Father of the Incel Movement