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ER was a pretty good writer.
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Interferon wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:48 pm ER was a pretty good writer.
No

ER was a pretty good LEADER

its not amazing that he was able to write things down

its amazing WHAT he wrote down

he could have said exactly the same stuff orally, without writing anything at all

his literacy is not the point
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General Alek wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:10 pm
Interferon wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:48 pm ER was a pretty good writer.
No

ER was a pretty good LEADER

its not amazing that he was able to write things down

its amazing WHAT he wrote down

he could have said exactly the same stuff orally, without writing anything at all

his literacy is not the point
I think you and I have been down this road before and we may just have to agree to disagree but I never could understand why you revere him so much as a so-called "leader". He actually was not the sort of man who would have inspired confidence or courage in anyone who would have been bold enough to actually follow him.

I have studied leadership both while training to become an officer in the US Army as well as in the abstract and more philosophical sense, as I used to teach Machiavelli to my political science students and I can tell you from bother practice and theory that leadership is about getting people to do things that they wouldn't otherwise do. Now if you said that Saint ER, PBUH, was a visionary and a man who was ahead of his time by virtue of the salience and prescience of his writings, I would agree with you but I have never considered him to have the sort of qualities that would have made him a remarkable leader.

If you want to know what I consider to be the sort of paradigmatic leader, go and watch the HBO series Rome and pay close attention to the character of Lucius Vorenus who ascends the ranks of the 13th Legion from Primus Pilum (Senior Centurion, roughly equivalent to Major) to Prefect (roughly equivalent to Brigadier General). You could also watch Band of Brothers and study the achievements and exploits of Major Richard Winters who commanded Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Other examples of great leaders from cinema would include Maximus Decimus Meridius from the film Gladiator, LTG James Longstreet of the Confederate Army from Gettysburg, Charles Xavier from X-Men First Class and William Wallace from Braveheart.
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Darth_aurelius wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:40 pm
General Alek wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:10 pm
Interferon wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 3:48 pm ER was a pretty good writer.
No

ER was a pretty good LEADER

its not amazing that he was able to write things down

its amazing WHAT he wrote down

he could have said exactly the same stuff orally, without writing anything at all

his literacy is not the point
I think you and I have been down this road before and we may just have to agree to disagree but I never could understand why you revere him so much as a so-called "leader". He actually was not the sort of man who would have inspired confidence or courage in anyone who would have been bold enough to actually follow him.

I have studied leadership both while training to become an officer in the US Army as well as in the abstract and more philosophical sense, as I used to teach Machiavelli to my political science students and I can tell you from bother practice and theory that leadership is about getting people to do things that they wouldn't otherwise do. Now if you said that Saint ER, PBUH, was a visionary and a man who was ahead of his time by virtue of the salience and prescience of his writings, I would agree with you but I have never considered him to have the sort of qualities that would have made him a remarkable leader.

If you want to know what I consider to be the sort of paradigmatic leader, go and watch the HBO series Rome and pay close attention to the character of Lucius Vorenus who ascends the ranks of the 13th Legion from Primus Pilum (Senior Centurion, roughly equivalent to Major) to Prefect (roughly equivalent to Brigadier General). You could also watch Band of Brothers and study the achievements and exploits of Major Richard Winters who commanded Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Other examples of great leaders from cinema would include Maximus Decimus Meridius from the film Gladiator, LTG James Longstreet of the Confederate Army from Gettysburg, Charles Xavier from X-Men First Class and William Wallace from Braveheart.
ER was more the sort of leader who led from the back than from the front

he was an INTJ like you
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General Alek wrote: Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:03 am
Darth_aurelius wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:40 pm
General Alek wrote: Fri Dec 06, 2024 5:10 pm

No

ER was a pretty good LEADER

its not amazing that he was able to write things down

its amazing WHAT he wrote down

he could have said exactly the same stuff orally, without writing anything at all

his literacy is not the point
I think you and I have been down this road before and we may just have to agree to disagree but I never could understand why you revere him so much as a so-called "leader". He actually was not the sort of man who would have inspired confidence or courage in anyone who would have been bold enough to actually follow him.

I have studied leadership both while training to become an officer in the US Army as well as in the abstract and more philosophical sense, as I used to teach Machiavelli to my political science students and I can tell you from bother practice and theory that leadership is about getting people to do things that they wouldn't otherwise do. Now if you said that Saint ER, PBUH, was a visionary and a man who was ahead of his time by virtue of the salience and prescience of his writings, I would agree with you but I have never considered him to have the sort of qualities that would have made him a remarkable leader.

If you want to know what I consider to be the sort of paradigmatic leader, go and watch the HBO series Rome and pay close attention to the character of Lucius Vorenus who ascends the ranks of the 13th Legion from Primus Pilum (Senior Centurion, roughly equivalent to Major) to Prefect (roughly equivalent to Brigadier General). You could also watch Band of Brothers and study the achievements and exploits of Major Richard Winters who commanded Easy Company of the 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division. Other examples of great leaders from cinema would include Maximus Decimus Meridius from the film Gladiator, LTG James Longstreet of the Confederate Army from Gettysburg, Charles Xavier from X-Men First Class and William Wallace from Braveheart.
ER was more the sort of leader who led from the back than from the front

he was an INTJ like you
I am sorry and with due respect, Staff Sergeant, but that just isn't responsive to what I said above. I may agree with you that ER, Peace be upon Him, almost certainly was INTJ and would likewise concede that I am too, on most days and most of the time but, I am also capable of leading and inspiring my troops, be they IPF Soldiers or Mujahedeen Warriors, by my own valorous and illustrious example.

It is important for a true leader of genuine men of honor such as those in the IPF or the Caliphate to be able to demonstrate courage in the face of the enemy and to thus imbue his soldiers with fortitude and to strengthen their resolve. Most of the leaders I cited above and personal exemplars of what I would consider to be men of excellence were combat leaders and all of them who were engaged in battle led from the front.

I don't want any of you men thinking that I would just sit back in some fortified Fuhrer Bunker and send out the masses of IPF privates and corporals to die by the thousands as I indulged in fine French Cognac, Cuban Cigars and caviar from the Caspian Sea. On the contrary, I would never ask or order any of my men to do anything that I wouldn't be willing to do myself.
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