I never saw incels as losers.

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Normies often say "only poor people collect pigeons, therefore pigeon training is an indication you are poor".

Later, some richman like Mike Tyson is training pigeons for fun. Later, they see in china the trained pigeons are some sort of high-status profession.

The moral of the story is normies always reason in a box, they associate patterns like a dumb toddler would. "this is a pattern I observed, therefore that". And when you listen to normies, you always notice they dont go out of the box, and they ignore 200 other occurrences in front of them.

Im not trying to nitpick, is simply that the model of reality normies use is wrong. For instance, normies on the incel forum say "JBW is true therefore whites cannot be incel". They ignore selectively all the situations in real life that show this forum bullshit is total crap. But they come to the conclusion with their "therefore" style of reasoning based on info they derived on a forum.

Or they say "tall people cannot be incel, because this study shows height is sought after by foids". the study can be true, and height can be one of the major factors that determine the complex equation of physical attractiveness. but normies for some reason conclude "therefore" tall people cannot be incel.

These normies always have the "therefore" attitude, they always jump to conclusions, I dont know why.

In any case normies say "incels are losers". But we arent, and I have proof we arent. We had a ton of univerrsity professors, some also worldwide famous like hugo de-garis. Some national famous like Richguy from our local forum. I mean actual incels with actual participation in the incel community. We had successful people and also losers, both mixed together. And besides that, I never thought for a second being incel indicates someone success or failure. Anyone can be incel, I dont even want to prove it. I got the experience and presence inside incel scene that backs it up.

So my perspective is inceldom is a legit situation, anyone from any walk of life can be incel. Think for example these people who do not conform to mores of the majority. Use my own case for instance. I reject dating ideology, I reject marrage ideology. Of course im incel, I object against normie life, if I wasnt incel I would be an hypocrite. It is obvious I am not dating, is simply because I rejected dating ideology when I was 16. Of course Im incel, is because of my choices amount to this outcome.

You can look around you, see ugly incels, hot incels. Even david gandy was incel, and I suspect he still is. David lost virginity age 21, meanwhile some incelcore pussycelebs on discord lose it age 18 despite they look waaaay uglier than david.

This fixed belief notion of the fixed-in-stone reality the normies use doesnt suits incels. Incels are exceptions where norms exist, incels exist regardless of normie fixed beliefs. I think is the essence of being an incel, the big deal is "yuo exist", simple as.