The right wing "movement"

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Sustacel250
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I was participating as a reader of right wing related contents on social media. I noticed many members of the spread right wing movement refr to a "movement". They say "the movement", referring to a broad network of digital electronic celebrities scattered around a lot of social media.

I was wondering whats up with the idea of "the movement", they clearly have none. And "the movement" is super diverse and unable to connect all the points of all the factions to a common cause. Except if they are aroused by propaganda and told to "hate the left" which many right wingers dont even do.

Dugin came in the west and identified approx 12 main groups. I mean, these are groups big enough to be considered, of course there are more. These groups all have in common 1 thing: they dont like society and feel marginalized. So theres pagans who dont like modernity, theres boomer libertarians who dont like NATO, theres christians who like jesus and have savior complex, theres dispossessed losers on twitter who worship electronic celebrities very very hard. One thing the russian intelligence was able to do was spending money to organize an outcome that can be coherent with the individual logic of each of these perspectives. So these people can go in 200 directions, but the conclusion of their ideology must be the same. In this framework it matters zero if youre a nazi or an antifa, so long you conclude that NATO is bad they allow you to exist.

So we had pagans like Varg vickernes writing his essays about NATO, we had boomer libertarians who criticize the federal reserve write essays about NATO, we had the christian conspiracy community write essays about NATO. All these people were convinced of a different reality, the christians believed the west is the great beast of revelation and jesus literally exists. The libertarian boomers didnt like military intervention. The pagans didnt like modernity. None of these people can coexist with each other, because they negate each other, but they can totally work together by "going in the same direction" even if their respective ideologies are fundamentally incompatible.

The libertarian will never coexist with the nazi. THe pagan cannot coexist with the christian. So, what appears is these people including the separatists from texit, or alberta independence or venice independence or cape independence can merely be persuaded to follow broad "directions" and they will never unite in "the movement".

Another situation around this discussion of "the movement" is during 2017 they had the "unite the right" rally, the idea as they expressed it was to unite all right wingers together under a common cause. The people in that scene, believed that "the left" was much more united and was thus impossible to defeat. Unless they unite all forces, and make common ground. What was observed is the teaparty had a mild success simply because of boomers fearing pension losses. Only a 15% of the teaparty was persuaded ideologically. And, with studies of political sciences they concluded at the very best a proposition like "alt right" could have captured up to 7% of american population.

Basically they notice that the average normie is not convinced ideologically, they follow you only if they are afraid to lose their privileges, and in the case of tea party it was simply boomers fearful for their precious pensions and UBI (universal boomer income).

Thinkers like Richard Spencer advocate for the spread of welfare and healthcare for this reason, because he knows if you corrupt the population with gibs, they will defend these gibs with teeth and nail. So after an observation of this mess, I would say a direction to follow for incel social research is to identify a method of spreading resources and use it to convince normies to join us.

Normies can be manipulated ideologically as we seen over and over. However, there are limits to the ideological manipulation and I believe that material reality matters more. Also, consider that ideological manipulation is expensive. I wrote a shitpost about it already. To manipulate mass perceptions you need huge capitals. When instead you circulate resources you can close an economic loop and spend less money.

To conduct an incel social science we can of course learn from the success and great achievement of the catholic church and other institutions of success like the marxists and so on.
 

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