My anti-marriage stance

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Sustacel250
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I developed my anti-marriage stance when I was 15. I went online, in the pro-male spaces of the time and expressed my opinion that at the time was rudimentary. I dont remember exactly what was my past belief.

But I think at the time I was realizing marriage is a contract. After reading a bit, i discovered I was misled, and some lawyers consider it a juridical transaction. So marriage may be a romantic ritual in normie terms, but is also a civil institution. This gives me insight on the psyche of normies, they basically adapt to the shape of an institution to the level of deep identity and their emotional reality becomes the goal of the institution. Normies are cogs in the machine, I think when I was 15 I had this idea already but was never able to pull it out of my head.

On some law forums, some law teachers said they tried in vain to teach the lesson to their students, trying to make them aware of what is marriage. Its a joke for older people, they see the youth and try to warn them, but the warnings of the elders always get lost and misunderstood.

In my case I decided to learn from other experiences and take their critique of marriage in a serious way. I was thinking in another direction tho, I was thinking society has no right to legalize or give me a mandate to marry. On the contrary, I was thinking I am the only authority and society has my mandate.

So marriage is reverse, you get a mandate by society. I disagree ideologically. I think is the reverse, I give mandate to my leaders, and im not created by them. I create my leaders is what I choose to believe. Marriage looks like a voluntary servitude, where you "choose" (a normie choice influenced by peer pressure and dogma) to enter a structure and suffer legal consequences later. Its as commies used to say "you reproduce the system". But I was disagreeing ideologically with the normie system, in various ways. So all more reasons to never marry. I also think I had this idea when I was 15, but again I did never express it properly.

Another thing I did not like about marriage is that its a social norm. And I dont follow social norms if they do not suit me. I do not want my sexual pursuits be regulated. This may seem counter intuitive expressed by an incel, because is average inside incel community that incels see marriage as a form of sexual redistribution. I see marriage as a ritual of bonding that society uses to make people bend their knee, and even kings did bend their knee. But not me. I think, social norms are cool until they violate the autonomy of the superior sovereign incel, in that case it becomes about submission and I didnt submit. I ended up accepting inceldom as a grace and I acquired superiority complex about it.

For me, sex is a right. But the notion of human right I have is that not having sex does not means I am being denied a right. I have a right in abstract terms, I do not expect to be provided with the item or the concept im entitled to. For example I have a right to go to the moon. But I do not have a right to pretend a spaceship and a crew and free training and permission to launch a rocket and free money to build a rocket. Which is why I reject the sexual redistribution argument developed inside incel scene. A right to obtain something does never implies a right to be given the thing. I side more with malcomX idea that you have to take your own rights. And every single living being has potentially infinite rights.

For me human right is an abstraction, and humans can have potentially infinite rights. And I perceive marriage as a contradiction of my human rights. When I say I perceive a potential violation of my rights is because I feel attacked. I mean I feel as if the pressures and conformity around marriage is a potential way to lure me into a choice I could do under duress or under effects of peer pressure, shaming and negative reinforcement.

Ok, well I dont remember exactly how I expressed my ideas at 15 but more or less this was my state of mind. I expressed this idea in a promale forum at the time and what happened is they humiliated me. They told me I was dumb, I was just young and unaware and my ideas were not my own but "elites" gave them to me. Or they told me it was just a phase in my teenager life. Other people told me "when you find a woman you will quit your tough attitude and you will weep" almost as a premonition or a projection of something they did when they capitulated in front of women.

At the time the show friends was popular and some pop culture thinker blamed the show for having promoted childlessness and communal living. I dint even watch friends, except maybe one or 2 episodes on TV. Who influenced me? Well back when I was 15 I had mixed cultural influences. Of course school is one of them, but my average reads were in the field of pseudo-intellectualism because like any teenager I wanted to know that stupid BS list of authors that presumably make you "smarty boi" like these stupid usual authors nietzsche schopenhauer and whatever my culture at the time was inclined to consider intelligent or high status.

My ideas were developed around observations of social changes, and my peers perceptions of dating. I lived in the middle of social changes, for instance I lived the introduction of cellphones, then smartphones. I lived till the end of sexual revolution, between the age when love marriage collided with the introduction of new norms related to hookup culture that later was changed into dating (gamified dating model) and metadating. I seen people around me conforming to all without questioning. So my act of questioning changes made me develop a critique of marriage.

In the promale forum they told me the solution to all issues is to promote marriage and I was foolish for having thought of getting rid of it instead. They were all christian conservative at the time, you can imagine how much assholes they were. A second group was communist second wave feminist, they too were pro marriage for some reason. I clashed with them when I was 15 and they just mocked me and humiliated me repeatedly. What pisses me the fuck off is that these normies gave me nothing but repackaged ideas like legal recognition related. Like, do you not know you can do arrangements and testament is a thing? Why the fuck you need marriage for legal reasons. And if you do, then its all more reasons to get the law changed.

In any case, I can say nowadays I have less butthurt. But the humiliation and offenses I received when I was 15 made me very butthurt. And their prediction did never come true. No woman ever made me bend the knee, no woman seduced me and they actually did try unlike it was for these utter losers on the promale communities. No woman ever made me change ideas. Nobody made me bend my knee, and I became more powerful over time. Nowadays I dont hate marriage the same way I was doing when I was 15, but I would say I still want it abolished. If other people do it, fine, is their loss. I picked another way of life, works for me.
 

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