I am unsure about Islam

[Vincent]

I know I have criticized it a lot. I know, many things are stupid. But then I see a video like this:


And I'm like: Damn. Islam. Everything he hates, I love about it. I hope those muslims take over all of europe and end this shitty society. Grape all the stupid foids, erase the simps and restore natural order.

[VH911]

I hope those muslims take over all of europe and end this shitty society. Grape all the stupid foids, erase the simps and restore natural order.

It's not in your favor tho.

[GothamER]

religion of peace

[Vincent]

It's not in your favor tho.

True, they would probably kill me. And you.

[Sustacel250]

And precisely what tells you that islam would resolve in the way you want? I mean, I encountered this islam topic for decades. It was also big in the past manuresphere, houellebecq also wrote a book about all men becoming muslims to get pussy. Book is called soumission 2015.

TLDR I think is just a cope.

If you convert to rape women, I must ask you why do you convert at all? Why not just raping women? Do you need to rape in the name of someone? Why can you not summon the courage to use your own name and take responsibilities? Why do you want to inflict your retardation on islam? Do you hate islam? Why do you want women to die and you cannot do it on your own, why do you need a religion if your motivations are sincere? If you hate women, why joining islam? Do you really think islamists would approve you? Did you try to talk to islamists? Did your local muslim community tell you to rape women? I am pretty sure they dont tell people to rape women.

My biggest question is. Why do you need a religion to do antisocial things. Can you not be a man and take responsibility?

[Vincent]

if you become muslims, you become part of a community don't you. either way, i didn't say i would become muslim. I just hope that muslims will end this female supremacy once and for all. i hate christcucks more than anything else in the world.

[Sustacel250]

if you become muslims, you become part of a community don't you. either way, i didn't say i would become muslim. I just hope that muslims will end this female supremacy once and for all. i hate christcucks more than anything else in the world.

Go talk to local muslims about your rape ideations, just for the lulz. Report back. Go to the mosque "hey bros im here to end female supremacy and rape women like dogs in the streets where do I sign up".

Yeah do it, I dare you.

[Sustacel250]

Why feminism gets all the scholars and we get these fucking tards who want to rape people? Holy shit inceldom is a mental asylum.

[Darth_aurelius]

I know I have criticized it a lot. I know, many things are stupid. But then I see a video like this:


And I'm like: Damn. Islam. Everything he hates, I love about it. I hope those muslims take over all of europe and end this shitty society. Grape all the stupid foids, erase the simps and restore natural order.

If you've listened to the podcast that Sumzero and I did on this very topic or the speech that I made on the inextricable link between Islam and the Blackpill, any doubts or lingering ambiguity would have been long ago resolved. I don't know why you don't come back on element where I can convince you in less then a New York minute that Islam is the best method we have to energize the incel movement. It seems as though you are finally coming to this realization yourself. And whatever you do, don't heed the convoluted and entirely ignorant suggestions of VH on this matter as he lacks the historical, theological and geopolitical sophistication that I possess and which enables me to better understand and articulate these issues.

[Vincent]

if you become muslims, you become part of a community don't you. either way, i didn't say i would become muslim. I just hope that muslims will end this female supremacy once and for all. i hate christcucks more than anything else in the world.

Go talk to local muslims about your rape ideations, just for the lulz. Report back. Go to the mosque "hey bros im here to end female supremacy and rape women like dogs in the streets where do I sign up".

Yeah do it, I dare you.

My local muslims are probably too cucked. Only groups like the Taliban have the balls.

[Vincent]

Why feminism gets all the scholars and we get these fucking tards who want to rape people? Holy shit inceldom is a mental asylum.

It's natural.

[Sustacel250]

It's natural.

Rape is natural? I encountered this cope in the right wing manuresphere. It was a cope in the spaces online most influenced by right leaning thought. Because these people would want to justify philosophically their biases.

I mean christians, nazis, that sort of people, the so called "chuds". Sometime they get into christianity, some times nazism, other times both of them. Now evidently the rapists get into islam. But is not a feature of islam nor is a feature of christianity or nazism.

[Sustacel250]

There was this guy called andrew anglin on the internet. You should probably search him if you dont know who he was. He had a blog embracing incels, he called himself incel.

He was originally a nazi, and he went around almost 10 years ago saying whites should rape women to outcompete the raping of arabs. He was saying the only issue of whites is they dont rape enough. It reminded me of the jewish punk band that was promoting white riots, saying that whites dont burn and loot and we should all be jungle savages to compete with black riots.

In any case, this guy andrew probably inspired the contemporary doomer right wing incels. These doomers go around saying that women have to accept the doomer seed, be raped and be submitted or they will never save the white race. I screenshotted some of these tards because I still dont understand if they are FBI agents or real life retards out of some mental asylum.

Later in life, andrew anglin became an orthodox christian. Nowadays he writes internet philosophy on unz review. I mean, he did a lifestyle of prostitution, pseudorape, violation of girls in thailand. This is the kind of antisocial scum you could be attracted to.

[Vincent]

It's natural.

Rape is natural? I encountered this cope in the right wing manuresphere. It was a cope in the spaces online most influenced by right leaning thought. Because these people would want to justify philosophically their biases.

I mean christians, nazis, that sort of people, the so called "chuds". Sometime they get into christianity, some times nazism, other times both of them. Now evidently the rapists get into islam. But is not a feature of islam nor is a feature of christianity or nazism.

Dude, aren't you the one who said you respect feminists? What are you doing here?

[Sustacel250]

Dude, aren't you the one who said you respect feminists? What are you doing here?

Thats me I got more respect for a feminist indeed. I do not support rape. Unless you do it as a fantasy or its a video game or you masturbate consensual BDSM or you act frustrated. I can understand and support the idea you unload your nerves. But will never support proto-rapists.

[SonOfElliotRodger]

I know I have criticized it a lot. I know, many things are stupid. But then I see a video like this:


And I'm like: Damn. Islam. Everything he hates, I love about it. I hope those muslims take over all of europe and end this shitty society. Grape all the stupid foids, erase the simps and restore natural order.

I myself come from a Muslim background though I disavowed when I was fifteen so many years ago. I was an atheist for like a decade then I was a Christ cuck now I don't identify with any religion. I am an atheist again. I actually don't like most parts of it either and a lot of it comes off as abuse and mind control.

However after joining this forum, I realized there are certain aspects of it that are great in terms of promoting brotherhood and Men's Rights. Masculinity, patriarchal values, brotherhood and Men's Rights are extremely important in Islam. This forum particularly made me realize the importance and steadfast commitment of the Mujahideen and their principles we should ourselves incorporate in our struggle for Men's Rights. Particularly the Taliban brothers are probably at the top for incorporating these principles as they don't take shit from anyone, they do not give into cancel culture, they do things their way without fear of anyone or anything and could be considered one percenters.

[Vincent]

I myself come from a Muslim background though I disavowed when I was fifteen so many years ago. I was an atheist for like a decade then I was a Christ cuck now I don't identify with any religion. I am an atheist again. I actually don't like most parts of it either and a lot of it comes off as abuse and mind control.

Do you still see yourself as muslim?

[SonOfElliotRodger]

I myself come from a Muslim background though I disavowed when I was fifteen so many years ago. I was an atheist for like a decade then I was a Christ cuck now I don't identify with any religion. I am an atheist again. I actually don't like most parts of it either and a lot of it comes off as abuse and mind control.

Do you still see yourself as muslim?

I do not.

[Vincent]

If you've listened to the podcast that Sumzero and I did on this very topic or the speech that I made on the inextricable link between Islam and the Blackpill, any doubts or lingering ambiguity would have been long ago resolved. I don't know why you don't come back on element where I can convince you in less then a New York minute that Islam is the best method we have to energize the incel movement. It seems as though you are finally coming to this realization yourself. And whatever you do, don't heed the convoluted and entirely ignorant suggestions of VH on this matter as he lacks the historical, theological and geopolitical sophistication that I possess and which enables me to better understand and articulate these issues.

Brother, even if I were convinced that Islam is the best thing for all of us. I can not be convinced that there is a god, and that Muhammad is his prophet. I just see him as a another human. And I see no evidence of god. So my brain just can't accept it.
Also, it pisses me off when Sumzero tells me fake miracles like the supposed ratio of land to water in the quran, which turned out to not be there. Makes me feel like he thinks I am stupid.
Either way, since I can't be convinced that Allah exists, I can never truly be a muslim, for better or for worse.
But if muslims ever take over in my country, I will side with them. Because they are still better than the christcucks.

[Sustacel250]

You think islam is all about rape?

I mean yeah they will rape and loot for sure. But this is what christians did as well. In some schools in south america they had curricula writing every single kid was lucky because spanish conquerors "discovered them". Basically they raped the locals and created a new muttrace. This is how much christianity outraped islam.

But after the rape and conquer occurs do you really really think a society can run on rape? Obviously there has to be rule and order and someone will punish rape. There will be the police, there will be rules.

If a society is run on rape and corruption, like india for example, its not a good society. Incels like you just get raped. Watch the trilogy of apu to learn about it. So maybe youre thinking "i will do the raping". How about you get raped instead?

No society can function with rape widespread. You seem to not understand what is a war and what happens when colonizers try to take over, and why that one is a context different than running a society. In war, horrible things happen. In normal society instead you want to maintain order, even if previously your group was attempting to take over with rapes and murders.

So I seriously think youre deluded if you think islam can give you rapes and murders. Or maybe you think "people like you" will control islam. Its way more likely you will be at the bottom again. If you were at the bottom of this society, believe me you will be at the bottom a second time under a differnt society. Instead people at the top in this society will be at the top of the new society.

This discussion reminds me of when communists on the internet accused me of fearing communism because im landlord. I laugh, I dont fear it at all, I would probably thrive even more under communism. These people really think they can shuffle the deck and end up on top. In reality, people at the top remain at the top. Its the same reason why when you go in unversity you remain incel. If you were incel in HS you will be incel in university, and also in the workplace. Its super rare someone can stop being incel if all he knows from life is rejection and inceldom.

I did see people defeating inceldom, but you dont look like one of them.