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The brutal humiliation I received from incelmaxers taught me to not trust losers. Like, we hear that homeless people are all saints. or all divorce dads are victim of feminism. Or all blacks are in jail because racism. Or, all the mentally ill people are poor victims.

yeah maybe. But keep your eyes open.

In UK when they finally achieved some level of justice and government was giving some money to people harmed by the vaccine, a ton of vultures went out of nowhere to fake the symptoms and cash the money. Real victims had to contend with vultures and hyenas who wanted to take their money they needed desperately as repayment of what they suffered from vaccination.

There are fake blind people out there. People who put glasses so they can enjoy superior victim status, an beg money. There are gypsy people with a rolex, that thieve our streets and pretend to be poor.

Theres scammmers everywhere, people who predate the elderly, cowards will attack the elderly and scam them brutally. In every area of life theres going to be asshole normies who profit off a problem.

Incel scene is no different. beware the relatable content online, dont listen to "online bros", these motherfuckers who write relatable contents are 90% fakes.

Of course we are submerged in problems. Normies are 95% of us. If the media will start doing articles about incel terrorism, all it will do is creating sexual contexts for women to be aroused and have sex with normies who pretend to be incels.

Every time there is problems normies arise to kick us in the stomach and profit off our suffering.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 10:53 The brutal humiliation I received from incelmaxers taught me to not trust losers. Like, we hear that homeless people are all saints. or all divorce dads are victim of feminism. Or all blacks are in jail because racism. Or, all the mentally ill people are poor victims.

yeah maybe

Maybe? No, definitely not.

Homeless people are mostly drug addicts, some are drunk guys who had family problems like getting cheated on by their wives.

Divorce dads are mostly normies who were abusive and married a slut.

Most black guys who are in jail, like 98%, are extremely stupid brutes who rob and attack actual innocent people. They have tons of sex because of it and they are the main opressors of innocent black people, in fact.

Mentally ill people, sure, a lot of them are victims of abuse, a lot of them are simply idiots.

Overall the world benefits good people and is bad towsrds bad people. Does it seem weird that I say this? Well, if this was not the case, then black people would be the most virtuous in the world, while jews, rich whites and rich asians would be the most evil and stupid. Bad people benefit in their early lives, getting virgin pussy and popularity, while good people benefit later due to the accumulated wisdom and skills, and the difference is that what good people build is much more inheritable.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 11:15 Overall the world benefits good people and is bad towsrds bad people. Does it seem weird that I say this? Well, if this was not the case, then black people would be the most virtuous in the world, while jews, rich whites and rich asians would be the most evil and stupid. Bad people benefit in their early lives, getting virgin pussy and popularity, while good people benefit later due to the accumulated wisdom and skills, and the difference is that what good people build is much more inheritable.
Weird. My experience with homeless people ( I was drug dealer by profession) taught me mostly theyre indeed screwed unfairly. I did see a ton who were denounced by a harpy woman.
These situations are real.

I meant on the internet. On the internet theres mostly larpers and frauds. I myself may be guilty of it, i have not been 100% sincere about my incel life. What I told the truth about is I dont get pussy. I lied I cant get it. Im a guy who spits on women faces in relity.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 11:54
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 11:15 Overall the world benefits good people and is bad towsrds bad people. Does it seem weird that I say this? Well, if this was not the case, then black people would be the most virtuous in the world, while jews, rich whites and rich asians would be the most evil and stupid. Bad people benefit in their early lives, getting virgin pussy and popularity, while good people benefit later due to the accumulated wisdom and skills, and the difference is that what good people build is much more inheritable.
Weird. My experience with homeless people ( I was drug dealer by profession) taught me mostly theyre indeed screwed unfairly. I did see a ton who were denounced by a harpy woman.
These situations are real.

I meant on the internet. On the internet theres mostly larpers and frauds. I myself may be guilty of it, i have not been 100% sincere about my incel life. What I told the truth about is I dont get pussy. I lied I cant get it. Im a guy who spits on women faces in relity.

I mean, I was homeless myself for a bit. I met many homeless people because of it, many of them have tragic stories, but a lot of it is their own fault and now they are awful drug addicts and drunkards. Just because your life story is hard it doesn't mean you are not awful as well.

Good people don't get screwed for so long, only in their youth. You will never see a wise old man who is a loser.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:01 Good people don't get screwed for so long, only in their youth. You will never see a wise old man who is a loser.
come on this isnt true. I think if you sleep 1 day in the cold next day your back hurts and your mind alreay stopped working properly. its a lifestyle that demolishes spirt of people regardless if theyre good or not. plust theyre exposed to such high amounts of human depravity and mental retardation. it takes serious titanium coated balls to go out o fit. if even is possible.

Also yeah some cool people are hobos. I think is the rule of exceptions. Remember the bell curve meme? I think is true. In the bottom of society I think yuo will find the highest IQ and also the lowest IQ, they are all there for some reason. I dont believe sciety brings up he best. Because in IQ stats it says 1 in 1000 is einstein level if not higher. So it means in a normie gathering for example a random highschool at least 1 is einstein level.

We should be surrounded by geniuses, yet we arent. I think who goes up in society are connected people, normies and mediocre people with 110 IQ. Those who are below or above 110 will not have it easy. "elite" in our society is 110 or 120.

geniuses are at best regarded as irrelevant scientists none truly goes up
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I mean look at incels.is situation. Yeah most are redditors but doesnt means all of them are redditor normies. I was lurking that website a while ago, there were some people asking if that was a psyop. Most of the users there are clueless. They dont know for example incels.is has internal circlejerks, they dont even suspect it.

They dont know the admincels get femcel nudes behind their backs. They dont know they are being datamined by FBI.

They just see "incels.is" and they assume is the main incel community. Some get screwed and banned before we can even reach them.

Thats a dictatorial place run by people who send them into assisted suicide forum.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:05
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:01 Good people don't get screwed for so long, only in their youth. You will never see a wise old man who is a loser.
come on this isnt true. I think if you sleep 1 day in the cold next day your back hurts and your mind alreay stopped working properly. its a lifestyle that demolishes spirt of people regardless if theyre good or not. plust theyre exposed to such high amounts of human depravity and mental retardation. it takes serious titanium coated balls to go out o fit. if even is possible.

Also yeah some cool people are hobos. I think is the rule of exceptions. Remember the bell curve meme? I think is true. In the bottom of society I think yuo will find the highest IQ and also the lowest IQ, they are all there for some reason. I dont believe sciety brings up he best. Because in IQ stats it says 1 in 1000 is einstein level if not higher. So it means in a normie gathering for example a random highschool at least 1 is einstein level.

We should be surrounded by geniuses, yet we arent. I think who goes up in society are connected people, normies and mediocre people with 110 IQ. Those who are below or above 110 will not have it easy. "elite" in our society is 110 or 120.

geniuses are at best regarded as irrelevant scientists none truly goes up

Well, I will sound extremely schizo now. But I don't care.

I don't think Einstein is anything special. I don't think those guys media tells us are geniuses are anything special. I think true geniuses win in life pretty consistently, while those guys are basically pen slaves to academia and used as icons by mass media. Not Einstein, Newton, Darwin or whatever. Their contributions are overrated anyway. Newton's color theory is pretty wrong, he thinks colors are made out of light, with low frequency light being red and high frequency light being violet. Pretty easy to show that's wrong, just stare at a bulb or the sun for some seconds and then close your eyes moving your head elsewhere. You will see green, blue, purple colors in your eyes, even though your eyes are closed. Where are the colors coming from? Colors are physiological, they have nothing to do with light, the only relation is that our eyes use colors to interpret light. This is enough to debunk this guy on color. Calculus? He didn't invent it like they say in school, not only Leibniz "invented" it at the same time, but a japanese dude invented at the same time as well. You can check it, his name is Seki Takakazu. Well, interesting that 3 guys "invented" Calculus at the same time, no? Well, it's because none of them invented anything, it was very natural to compile a bunch of results that already existed. Archimedes, Cavalieri etc, already had integration. Pascal, Fermat and others already had Differentiation. Isaac Barrow already made the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus. So what is there to invent? Any idiot can invent Calculus if all those things already exist. Newton's mechanics can't predict almost anything outside the solar system, that's why people invent cheating such as dark matter. So basically, almost everything this guy did was useless or he didn't invent, or it was wrong. But people will tell you he's the greatest genius ever, him and Einstein. Einstein is even worse, pretty much he only had useless theories, but for some weird reason he's considered the greatest genius. It's all propaganda.

So ok, I fully believe in any high school there will be people as smart as Einstein. There will be because he is nothing special.

Smart people will have full understanding of the benefits and drawbacks of honesty and cheating in competitive activities, as well as will be able to read others better. Why would they become losers? It makes no sense. The only reason why they could become losers is because others could have an intuitive disgust towards them.

If what you are saying is the truth, then I guess africans and abos are the smartest, nicest people on earth. Nah, the cleaverest get huge advantages. Sometimes the smartest are not the people media pushes as it, it can be people like the pro gamer Faker that plays League of Legends, or some guy who owns retail shops.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:51 Smart people will have full understanding of the benefits and drawbacks of honesty and cheating in competitive activities, as well as will be able to read others better. Why would they become losers? It makes no sense. The only reason why they could become losers is because others could have an intuitive disgust towards them.
I think youre using some sort of PUA morality. Like, if you are in a context of a corporation and you realize whats to do to win your proteins you follow script and eat protein.

This is very intro level is what NPC programs do. In a nutshell, your brain converts it all into "proteins" so you can notice if you get max grades in academia you can appropriate of these resources. Feminists are champions in this range of IQ which would be around 90-100. Its the threshold where you just interpret status signals and you want to be high status to get more protein. Winners in the welfare hierarchy (feminists) do this. They go study sociology, then they notice state allocated jobs for social impact advocacy, NGOs and gender equality advisor roles are open in various companies. Their brain thinks "protein" so they enter into policy analyst role in some major megacorpo, UN agency or ome fraud fake job created for them in journalism.

Chek this. This guy is a real incel. He studied psychology for real. I dont know if he ever made big money or big status but he really did study thats for sure. His title isnt a fraud at all.

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Now check this:

This is the face of a woman who makes millions scamming normies with life coaching ideology. in your parameter she is a genius.

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By the way newton was a total genius. Everyone gets science theories wrong. Science is never about getting everything right, nobody does. All science of the past is "debunked" anyway. But newton theories are not really "wrong" he got them right, they were just not totally true and today we have better theories.
Also youre right, einstein is a fraud but I mentioned his name simply because hes the jew brand that people think is smart. I wanted to say "around 160IQ" and theres plenty people (not me) who reach that level.

Im not at that level I just know theres many who are.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:51 If what you are saying is the truth, then I guess africans and abos are the smartest, nicest people on earth.
Not expert about it but yeah I think africa is holding some big IQ we just dont know exists and they dont know too. I dont know, theres tons of types of africans but I think some groups got a big brain. THe reason their big brain does not shows I think is because they never went thru the meatgrinder that was europe with all wars and genocides.

Europe was running brutal selection, sent all men to die for centuries. Aristocrats in europe had the idea of risking their own life and abhorred the idea of decadence. They started to decay, got soft, honor duels dont exist no more now. Eventually european elites became soft, and dumber.

But for centuries all elites suppressed the reproduction rates of the underclass, killed all incels. Repeatedly, over and over. And this resulted in a super selected boosted IQ. many poor people have elite DNA, because kings were fucking around. There was a time where elites had more kids, and you could be born secret son of a prince who fucked around. Born maybe with some inheritance you dont know why you have it.

Nowadays we see elites dont do this anymore. Also it covers one big lie inside incel scene. The lie that inceldom increased over time. honestly it decreased, data show it. Today less people are incel. In the past they would have been sent to die in the meatgrinder.

Africa didnt have this terrible meatgrinder. I see africa as just a place a bit behind.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:51 Why would they become losers? It makes no sense
Totally does. Think of PUA for example. People think "I dont want to be a loser", so they listen to life coaches who sell them scams. The methods they learn decrease their reproductive success and make them gamble. Gambling mindset can make you think you achieve "victory" if you approach 1000 women and only one says "yes". And little did you know if you just were yourself you would probably had more luck. In a nutshell these methods decrease your chances of getting laid, they teach you false information.

They make a loser out of you.

Or, people think "I dont want to be a loser" so they read the book of robert kyosaki or get scammed by peterson or tony robbins, next thing they know is theyre homeless or wage-serfs who grind the hamster wheel.

The world is filled with "i dont want to be a loser" people. Many top male models like david gandy didnt even try to be models, he was over 20 and one his friends sent his pic to a modeling agency. Meanwhile on incel forum some "I dont want to be a loser" types on lookism forum are breaking hteir bones and sending their face picsto 100 modeling agencies, getting discarded.

Such is life. People get loser all the time despite their best efforts. I think makes a ton of sense. Or, why all these thugs in the streets are losers if they follow the rap music achievement dream? They listen to ice cube songs with dreas of mafia and thuggery. Doesnt take a genius, observe them: they screw each other and push drugs their dream of cope and booze is what made them losers.

Jews instead achieve like winners, study hard, give prizes to high IQ people, hell they even marry them multiple times or pay them to reproduce. Jews will grow surrounded by books.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:05
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:51 Smart people will have full understanding of the benefits and drawbacks of honesty and cheating in competitive activities, as well as will be able to read others better. Why would they become losers? It makes no sense. The only reason why they could become losers is because others could have an intuitive disgust towards them.
I think youre using some sort of PUA morality. Like, if you are in a context of a corporation and you realize whats to do to win your proteins you follow script and eat protein.

This is very intro level is what NPC programs do. In a nutshell, your brain converts it all into "proteins" so you can notice if you get max grades in academia you can appropriate of these resources. Feminists are champions in this range of IQ which would be around 90-100. Its the threshold where you just interpret status signals and you want to be high status to get more protein. Winners in the welfare hierarchy (feminists) do this. They go study sociology, then they notice state allocated jobs for social impact advocacy, NGOs and gender equality advisor roles are open in various companies. Their brain thinks "protein" so they enter into policy analyst role in some major megacorpo, UN agency or ome fraud fake job created for them in journalism.

Chek this. This guy is a real incel. He studied psychology for real. I dont know if he ever made big money or big status but he really did study thats for sure. His title isnt a fraud at all.

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Now check this:

This is the face of a woman who makes millions scamming normies with life coaching ideology. in your parameter she is a genius.

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By the way newton was a total genius. Everyone gets science theories wrong. Science is never about getting everything right, nobody does. All science of the past is "debunked" anyway. But newton theories are not really "wrong" he got them right, they were just not totally true and today we have better theories.
Also youre right, einstein is a fraud but I mentioned his name simply because hes the jew brand that people think is smart. I wanted to say "around 160IQ" and theres plenty people (not me) who reach that level.

Im not at that level I just know theres many who are.

I think grifters are much smarter than people realize. Sure, they are not technical geniuses, but do they need to be? They know most people are retarded and use it to their favor. So I think some of those grifters are indeed geniuses. It's limited if you just think about money, money should be to set you free and give you power, not to be an end in itself. If she is not gaining knowledge to pass advantages to her next generation, then it's all as special as straws. You see in real geniuses like abraham and confucius, how they get a cultural advantage that just puts their descendants ahead even after 2000 years.

How is it clever, to contribute to academia while not gaining much from it? That's just being a stupid slave. I can never understand, why anyone would give their most powerful theories to academia for free. Why??? How does it make any sense, people are brainwashed. If you have powerful theories that can give you advantages, you hold them to yourself and your family. So based on this, every single person who is worshiped as a genius by academia is automatically not that clever, since they gave their theories for upper middle class salaries.

Newton is for sure much better than Einstein, but I don't think he is as much of a genius as people say, no. There was already very usable mechanics before him, and his mechanics was all remade by Euler, Lagrange and Hamilton, the one that is taught in schools and actually used irl. And it's pretty much a total lie that he unified celestial mechanics with regular mechanics, since his celestial mechanics don't really work outside the solar system. He didn't invent Calculus either and his optics are very wrong, Goethe showed this.

The most clever people are not even going to be discussing what most people are discussing, it's all silly. They are probably not engaging in any debate and just holding knowledge to themselves, while acquiring money. Geniuses in my opinion: Hitler, Goebbels, Plato, Philip II of Macedon, Jewish multi millionaires, Faker, many of the owners of multinational companies.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:14
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 12:51 If what you are saying is the truth, then I guess africans and abos are the smartest, nicest people on earth.
Not expert about it but yeah I think africa is holding some big IQ we just dont know exists and they dont know too. I dont know, theres tons of types of africans but I think some groups got a big brain. THe reason their big brain does not shows I think is because they never went thru the meatgrinder that was europe with all wars and genocides.

Europe was running brutal selection, sent all men to die for centuries. Aristocrats in europe had the idea of risking their own life and abhorred the idea of decadence. They started to decay, got soft, honor duels dont exist no more now. Eventually european elites became soft, and dumber.

But for centuries all elites suppressed the reproduction rates of the underclass, killed all incels. Repeatedly, over and over. And this resulted in a super selected boosted IQ. many poor people have elite DNA, because kings were fucking around. There was a time where elites had more kids, and you could be born secret son of a prince who fucked around. Born maybe with some inheritance you dont know why you have it.

Nowadays we see elites dont do this anymore. Also it covers one big lie inside incel scene. The lie that inceldom increased over time. honestly it decreased, data show it. Today less people are incel. In the past they would have been sent to die in the meatgrinder.

Africa didnt have this terrible meatgrinder. I see africa as just a place a bit behind.

I believe intelligence is not as genetical as people think. It is genetical, but that's about 1/3 of it. Health while growing up and being autistic are just as important things, as well as having an obsession with honesty/truth. If a person does not have such an obsession from a young age, it will be hard to develop intelligence. If you want a kid to be smart, you should have a kid at an older age so that you increase the chances that your son will be autistic. Also have him listen to fables when he is very young, so he becomes moral and thus develop an obsession with only doing things if he has understanding of them. Those are the main factors, in my opinion, more than genetics.

Africans are stupid because they are very very immoral. You simply can't develop intelligence like that, only rote learning, you will not be systematical.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 I think grifters are much smarter than people realize. Sure, they are not technical geniuses, but do they need to be?
I disagree I think they are symptoms of declines, and when there is a crysis normies get immoral and listen to more scammers. While moral degradation progresses, people listen to more lies and copes and run gambling behaviors. Everyone gets more nervous so they listen to scammers.
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 some of those grifters are indeed geniuses
Some. I would say the big genius ones are cult builders, some of them achieved political influence by building a cult. I think the leader at least has some bigIQ but not as big as genius level.
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 . They are probably not engaging in any debate and just holding knowledge to themselves, while acquiring money
Yeah companies do it. APple did not release all their studies they did about normies. Some was released but apple had some secret knowledge of the normie they didnt release. Nintendo didnt release the results of their studies.

Academia is different, I mean is a different topic so I cannot compare it. In a nutshell we pay for it. by "we" I mean we taxpayers. Large portion of academic research is funded by government grands or taxpayers. Depends on the country in mine is like this. The normative argument is results should be accessible to me and you. But it depends, I would find it fair if some private think thank was withdrawing info for themselves. Like, I dont think tavistock institute shares their knowledge why would they?

In any case I dont want to discuss it. You are asking what is the pleasure of discovering reality. I dont knwo what to tell you. In life you go out and you dont need to know what is gravity. Or, to be a competent incel I didnt need to read all that science junk I could have just said "fuck women" and opened a youtube relatable cntent channel. Or you can spray bullets like ER and you will be next incel idol.

I think some people are made to be incel researchers some re more like "men of action" and thats fine too.I really do believe in these classes like in video games. SOme men are "men of action" and they experience truth only in battle this is totally real. Some men like myself instead like to get into theories and its also fine. Some are merchants some are warrior class, some are wizards. Its what it is, if you dont get what it is the path of the wizard then live comfy you dont have to get it. Follow your own path.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 14:07
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 I think grifters are much smarter than people realize. Sure, they are not technical geniuses, but do they need to be?
I disagree I think they are symptoms of declines, and when there is a crysis normies get immoral and listen to more scammers. While moral degradation progresses, people listen to more lies and copes and run gambling behaviors. Everyone gets more nervous so they listen to scammers.
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 some of those grifters are indeed geniuses
Some. I would say the big genius ones are cult builders, some of them achieved political influence by building a cult. I think the leader at least has some bigIQ but not as big as genius level.
Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 13:30 . They are probably not engaging in any debate and just holding knowledge to themselves, while acquiring money
Yeah companies do it. APple did not release all their studies they did about normies. Some was released but apple had some secret knowledge of the normie they didnt release. Nintendo didnt release the results of their studies.

Academia is different, I mean is a different topic so I cannot compare it. In a nutshell we pay for it. by "we" I mean we taxpayers. Large portion of academic research is funded by government grands or taxpayers. Depends on the country in mine is like this. The normative argument is results should be accessible to me and you. But it depends, I would find it fair if some private think thank was withdrawing info for themselves. Like, I dont think tavistock institute shares their knowledge why would they?

In any case I dont want to discuss it. You are asking what is the pleasure of discovering reality. I dont knwo what to tell you. In life you go out and you dont need to know what is gravity. Or, to be a competent incel I didnt need to read all that science junk I could have just said "fuck women" and opened a youtube relatable cntent channel. Or you can spray bullets like ER and you will be next incel idol.

I think some people are made to be incel researchers some re more like "men of action" and thats fine too.I really do believe in these classes like in video games. SOme men are "men of action" and they experience truth only in battle this is totally real. Some men like myself instead like to get into theories and its also fine. Some are merchants some are warrior class, some are wizards. Its what it is, if you dont get what it is the path of the wizard then live comfy you dont have to get it. Follow your own path.

It's not that I don't get the point of theory, it's that I don't get the point of sharing. Think from a game perspective. Why would you share knowledge that no one else has and that gives you an advantage? It's like announcing that you are cheating. No, that's ridiculous, if you have exclusive knowledge you extract the benefits of it as much as you can without telling anyone. That's why I'm saying those famous personalities are not very clever, since they are sharing without benefiting at all from it. There's no social contract or anything like that, you are randomly born in a place and you see all those hierarchies and grifters. Thinking you have to share something with someone for some idealism is bluepilled, powerful old grandpas put those ideas out there to extract brain power from naive young people.
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Pour_Lui wrote: 06 Jan 2026, 14:17 That's why I'm saying those famous personalities are not very clever, since they are sharing without benefiting at all from it.
yeah youre right for instance vatican for sure is holding libraries and they didnt share it. Or, rothschild invested in archeological diggings and none got shared. I am sure a lot of knowledge america has about weapons and such is not shared either. The elites may be in possession of tech far more advanced than we think.

Obviously all what is researched by governments in secret labs inst shared. All info on human cloning isnt shared. All the trump child modeling agencies dont share with us the info. Bill gates didnt share with us his modified mosquito researches.

Youre correct, if you got knowledge that is valuable you dont share it. But in science theory is different, and fields like math for example have very opensource culture. I dont know I dont like this discussion sorry.

I think theres plenty advantages sharing and other situations demand you dont share.

I usually am pretty open with other incels and I share all I have and i think genuinely i am not losing anything. It must be maybe because I dont give a fuck if these incels grow skills and compete with me. Its because im very confident in my skills I know my value. But I dont know, other people are stingy.
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