The problem with most of those saints is the lack of long term thinking

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If they did it systematically, like this organization does, then they could do a lot more.

All the great guys in history who got lots of power did long term planning that lasted for literal decades, sometimes plans for entire lives or longer than their own lives, going into their families. That's the difference between achieving meaningful change or not. Damn, the reason why Jews are so successful and always win, is because they are always thinking in terms of descendants. If you really hate society and want meaningful change, you don't destroy them in a shooting or with punches, you use mass propaganda and buroucracy, and only fight if you can gather a large group.

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It's hard to think on such long terms when the hate in you is telling you to either kill others or kill yourself, but it means you just have to hate even more. Hate until you are depersonalized, until you see your own body and soul as mere tools for the corruption and destruction of everything else that is valued. Hate your own body and existence to the point the misery in it is a source of fuel.

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Did you know anarchists 100 years ago called themselves "saints".

I told it to incels and they ignored me. Basically 100 years later, incel people start using the name "saint" on their own. Incel people were not influenced at all by the past saints. Incel people today are mostly persuaded by right wing propaganda, but they came up with it independently, started calling ER "a saint" and in no way the contemporary incels were influenced by the politics of 100 years ago.

These past incels of 100 yaers ago, had the same edgy traits of contemporary incels, malajdusted people who blew themselves for "sending a message", equally as unreasonable as the contemporary incels.

Contemporary incels cannot be reasoned with, they want to "spread the blackpill" or "tell it to the normies" or have that same spirit, and they dont listen to reason at all.

Could it be the saints of the past reincarnated? I dont know.

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In any case I think incel people are not wrong. Because is true, if they push with fanaticism they acquire powers they normally would not have. I mean if a weak framelet is put ablaze by some edgy ideology he can double his own strength and become powerful.

Incel fanaticism is a double edged sword, we noticed a ton of times how much it harms us, but if the incels were to be set on fire they would become very strong. Incel fanatics under leadership sure thing are strong. Incel fanatics dispersed online are absolute self-harming losers who shun each other.

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Did you know anarchists 100 years ago called themselves "saints".

I told it to incels and they ignored me. Basically 100 years later, incel people start using the name "saint" on their own. Incel people were not influenced at all by the past saints. Incel people today are mostly persuaded by right wing propaganda, but they came up with it independently, started calling ER "a saint" and in no way the contemporary incels were influenced by the politics of 100 years ago.

These past incels of 100 yaers ago, had the same edgy traits of contemporary incels, malajdusted people who blew themselves for "sending a message", equally as unreasonable as the contemporary incels.

Contemporary incels cannot be reasoned with, they want to "spread the blackpill" or "tell it to the normies" or have that same spirit, and they dont listen to reason at all.

Could it be the saints of the past reincarnated? I dont know.

Nowadays we have a power they never had, which is tech. With tech a single power user can have the impact of 1000. If incels in general are a bunch of idiots(and they are), it really doesn't matter as long as there's a small bunch of smartcels. A single lonely, relatively poor guy, can astroturf with an impact that a whole political party couldn't 100 years ago.