ideal political environment for incels

[Roxzm]

which political ideology is the best for incels to live in?
which political ideology would help incels?
which political ideology incels would benefit from?

[Nagger]

>which political ideology is the best for incels to live in?

Ultra utilitarian ones or ideologies that don't presuppose any state enforced laws. On the one hand when you have a very strict social contract for both men and women you basically force them to do what is best for society, coincidentally that means fucking as to produce more slave-cattle that future iterations of the government can leech off of. Anarchistic ideologies go by the age old maxima of might is right, even if you aren't a gigachad you can easily overpower a woman and make love to her when chad is busy fighting another chad. This type of behavior happens all the time with chimps, deer and other mammals. It is a matter of personal taste which one you choose, mind you that utilitarian societies can even be socialistic. For example in communist Romania pro natalist policies ensured that women HAD TO breed.

[TheRapist]

Marxism-Rodgerism with zero commie BS and with a sole focus on a truly phalocentric monarchy.

[Darth_aurelius]

which political ideology is the best for incels to live in?
which political ideology would help incels?
which political ideology incels would benefit from?

Excellent questions my comrade. I think that the answers will tend to coalesce around a similar point along the ideological continuum although I know these are different subjects that you are inquiring in to. The best ideology for purposes of governance of incels would be a form of Wahabi or Salafi inspired theocracy, somewhat analogous to what we see in the rule of the Taliban in Afghanistan whereby women are pervasively and categorically relegated to a role of subservience and subordination vis-à-vis their male overlords. Islamic fundamentalism as modulated by an autocratic rule by an enlightened despot would be maximally conducive to both the preservation of traditional values as well as the personal satisfaction and flourishing of incel men.

As for ideologies that are helpful for incel men, I would submit to you that National Socialism would have been and still could be viable as it both directs much of its energies towards the resolution of the jewish question (which is the incipient source of many of the problems that plague incels) and likewise offers avenues for advancement on the basis of meritocracy to those incel men who are intellectually gifted or possess some utility function to the regime.

It seems as though your third question is merely a reformulation of the second.

[Darth_aurelius]

Marxism-Rodgerism with zero commie BS and with a sole focus on a truly phalocentric monarchy.

I would agree with the first proposal but not the second. I don't think a monarchy is really conducive to creating a sort of meritocratic system which we ought to strive towards and where advancement is predicated exclusively on ability, education, intelligence, loyalty or some combination thereof. Unless you mean to say a monarchy that isn't hereditary but that would just be another way of saying that you would want an autocracy.

[TheRapist]

Marxism-Rodgerism with zero commie BS and with a sole focus on a truly phalocentric monarchy.

I would agree with the first proposal but not the second. I don't think a monarchy is really conducive to creating a sort of meritocratic system which we ought to strive towards and where advancement is predicated exclusively on ability, education, intelligence, loyalty or some combination thereof. Unless you mean to say a monarchy that isn't hereditary but that would just be another way of saying that you would want an autocracy.

Oh the last thing I mean was a TRUE PATRIARCHY, where only males get to lead society and women stay indoors either shitting and raising kids or just shutting the hell up and opening their legs when asked and that's it.
Not the boogieman pseudo patriarchy current times woketards are all blatantly against for

[Darth_aurelius]

Marxism-Rodgerism with zero commie BS and with a sole focus on a truly phalocentric monarchy.

I would agree with the first proposal but not the second. I don't think a monarchy is really conducive to creating a sort of meritocratic system which we ought to strive towards and where advancement is predicated exclusively on ability, education, intelligence, loyalty or some combination thereof. Unless you mean to say a monarchy that isn't hereditary but that would just be another way of saying that you would want an autocracy.

Oh the last thing I mean was a TRUE PATRIARCHY, where only males get to lead society and women stay indoors either shitting and raising kids or just shutting the hell up and opening their legs when asked and that's it.
Not the boogieman pseudo patriarchy current times woketards are all blatantly against for

Well said comrade. And it is important to recall that for literally thousands of years before the Enlightenment era and the technological and quality of life advancements which it facilitated, patriarchy was regnant in almost every civilization in the world, irrespective of time and place. The intrinsic intellectual, physical and moral superiority of men was manifestly conspicuous in these pre-modern societies where women were rightfully relegated to a place of inferiority and subject status as they had such little social utility function. Only with the rise of the modern nation state and the concomitant notions of liberal democracy, rights of "man", the repudiation of Hobbesian philosophical precepts and the secularization of society have women been able to achieve a place of equality and indeed, now superiority, in relation to men. But this is an artificial system and one which does a disservice to the nature of our species and the precedent set by ten thousand years of human endeavor.

[lifesucksandyoudie]

I see aligning with reactionary far right movements or even less cucked far left causes (in parts of the world where they aren't corrupted by deconstructionist postmodernist ideology or identity politics) as mere stepping stones towards an ideal society for incels. Radical fringe politics with radical proposals to alter society drasticly are our best bet to promote change in policy that benefits us. Their beliefs have some core values and tenets that can benefit incels and do correspond or overlap with parts of the blackpill so incels can agree with certain aspects of their belief systems. But they shouldn't be taken as the end goal in of themselves, because they're still half measures and should be treated more like stopgaps to move in the direction of the utopian social order for mankind which operates on blackpilled ideology and takes into account the objective core truths and facts about reality espoused by the blackpill.

[Pour_Lui]

I see aligning with reactionary far right movements or even less cucked far left causes (in parts of the world where they aren't corrupted by deconstructionist postmodernist ideology or identity politics) as mere stepping stones towards an ideal society for incels. Radical fringe politics with radical proposals to alter society drasticly are our best bet to promote change in policy that benefits us. Their beliefs have some core values and tenets that can benefit incels and do correspond or overlap with parts of the blackpill so incels can agree with certain aspects of their belief systems. But they shouldn't be taken as the end goal in of themselves, because they're still half measures and should be treated more like stopgaps to move in the direction of the utopian social order for mankind which operates on blackpilled ideology and takes into account the objective core truths and facts about reality espoused by the blackpill.

Very high iq

[Sustacel250]

Lets think who is an incel.

- Socially marginalized or isolated, abandoned by institutions. Meaning, hes someone who has nothing to gain from being right wing, left wing type of normie or party politics. Someone like this will not benefit from mainstream political parties who corrupt the masses. Because these parties evaluated him "unfit" to be given any privilege.
- Has little or no stakes in social or political hierarchies. Maybe the incel is low status, coming from a family that is not politically connected. Slaving for a party means cuckoldry. He will not do it.
- Does not rely on institutions. No family, no community, less welfare compared to negros or immigrants, no church, no matchmaking.
- Frustrated with mating models like traditional gender conformant people or dating ideology or tinder algorithmic dating. Nothing works for him.
- Wants autonomy and recognition and wants to achieve self-worth otuside existing systems.

Well, this is the profile of an incel. Hes not even a "proletariat" hes below that since has no kids.

The ideologies that fit him are:

- Liberalism. Its all about individual rights, rule of law, freedom of choice, secular morality, merit-based frameworks where abstract autistic values matter more than tribal affiliation.

- Radical incelism. Criticizing patriarchy, social norms, against feminism too. Social structures privilege normies, incelman can hate them.

- Militant atheism or secular humanism. Rejects religiosity because social hierarchies and social codes confuse the autistic incel or exclude him.

- Communism/socialism in one of its variants. Incelmen are often attracted to criticism of society, or hierarchical domination. If you feel "bottom of society" you can be attracted to that approach.

- Anarchy. I consider it bottom tier lowIQ but some people like it.

- Right wing nonsense. Some incels fantasize being dominators in dungeon and dragons settings. I consider it more like a fantasy. But domination fantasies are very common these days. There is a whole genre in literature about domination fantasies. The big idea is women dont love you so you gotta figure out a way to coerce them. So yeah maybe some incels like right wing nonsense.

I personally go with western millennia old tradition. Im a man of the west, i like rule of law and science and truth and justice. So I self identify with the values of the west. Im western above all. Western society is the best for me. I get hentai and copes and I can hate women and avoid to fill a role. In my western society I give a mandate to politicians, and I can say "fuck the pope" or blaspheme gods and heads of state. Why? because I give them power so I can revoke it.

(this is all in theory, unfortunately we are having issues in the west)