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It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a male virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
It was a position that glorified being a male virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
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General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
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Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
Yes sir
But of course, the rise of feminism has made that impossible
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I was baptized in the Catholic Church when I was younger but now I consider myself more of a Baptist Bible-thumping Christian. The Catholic Church has a lot of flaws and problems. First of all they call their priests/pastors “father.” Jesus says in the Bible call no man on earth your father because you only have one Father in heaven.General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
Other Christian denominations like Baptist allow their priests to get married. Catholic Church still isn’t as bad as the gay libtard churches like Episcopalian which literally have satanic gay pride flags in their church as well as female pastors. Completely contrarian to real biblical doctrine. Satan doesn’t attack churches from the outside, he infiltrates them from within
As far as feminism goes, they’re a bunch of Jews, atheists and Satanists who’ve contributed significantly to the decline of our civilization and the rise of the NWO. I explained more on other threads. Shit is deep and takes a while to explain everything.
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Apostle Paul does say in the Bible that it’s better to be a single cel like him because the single man thinks about how to please God and the married man thinks about how to please his wife. So he says while it’s not a sin to be married, the unmarried profits more in the Kingdom of Heaven.General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a male virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
He also says let he who can’t control himself marry because it’s better to marry than burn with passion/lust. So I could make the additional point about how society, gynocentrisim, feminism, the world etc. is fucked up and satanic because it doesn’t allow men of passion to marry. Plus devaluing our currency and causing inflation etc.
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General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:28Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
Yes sir
But of course, the rise of feminism has made that impossible
Nothing is impossible and there have been attempts made by various schismatic radicalized Catholics to render the teachings, dogma and the practices of the the faith more consistent with a hardcore and patriarchal paradigm. I personally have stated here on these forums and elsewhere that if the Church were to embrace the militancy and sacred holy war ideology which it espoused during the medieval era and particularly from the 11th through the 15th centuries when it sent military orders on Crusade, I would consider rejoining the faith of my ancestors, taking up the sword (or AK-47) and fighting holy Catholic war against all simps, foids, jews and other filthy degenerates. In the words of my favorite character from the film Kingdom of Heaven (a crusading feudal lord who rapes women and tortures men to death); God wills it.
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King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
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Lmfao deus vultDarth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:43General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:28Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
Yes sir
But of course, the rise of feminism has made that impossible
Nothing is impossible and there have been attempts made by various schismatic radicalized Catholics to render the teachings, dogma and the practices of the the faith more consistent with a hardcore and patriarchal paradigm. I personally have stated here on these forums and elsewhere that if the Church were to embrace the militancy and sacred holy war ideology which it espoused during the medieval era and particularly from the 11th through the 15th centuries when it sent military orders on Crusade, I would consider rejoining the faith of my ancestors, taking up the sword (or AK-47) and fighting holy Catholic war against all simps, foids, jews and other filthy degenerates. In the words of my favorite character from the film Kingdom of Heaven (a crusading feudal lord who rapes women and tortures men to death); God wills it.
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KingDavid wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:44King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
Yes but the Old Testament and particularly the blood stained pages of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are filled with all manner of moral insanity, genocidal injunctions and religious propaganda meant to vindicate the unconscionable behavior of Yahweh's chosen people that I ascribe no historical veracity or ethical import to its teachings. The Bible in general is a piecemeal document that of course had been cobbled together over many centuries and the fact that Christ was sent by His divine Father to fulfill the ancient prophesies of the Pentateuch means that Christianity must incorporate the lunacy of the Old Testament which I find to be nothing more then a work of dramatic fiction.
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KingDavid wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:44King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:11 It was the perfect career for a guy who can't get a gf or lose his virginity
It was a position that glorified being a virgin
But the Catholic Church is powerless and hollow now
Which happened with the rise of feminism
It makes sense that feminists would not want rejected male virgins to have any kind of power or influence
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
They should've been distributed among incels
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General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:51KingDavid wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:44King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
They should've been distributed among incels
There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
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Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:59General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:51KingDavid wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:44
King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.
They should've been distributed among incels
There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
I suppose when the IPF breaks into worldly success, you will have the pick of the finest stacies, and then I will have second pick, and Tovarishcel third, and then the red soldiers, and then the yelllow comrades
There might be nothing left for the bluecels.....or worse than nothing
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Im surprised. I made this point many times and I wrote priestmaxing strategies on incel forums I already argued for it many times.
It all came to my mind when an old doctor told me that all my problems culd be fixed and he said I could become priest. Its easy, basically they fix every single thing you suffer from. Housing, job, education, they got it all fixed.
If you enter seminary and youre not young, they consider it even better because you had your revelation later. At least where I live, converting to christianity when youre older is widely respected and is interpreted as a call from god, or a person with "sincere beliefs". Instead is very common to expect youth to not be sincere and to invent some excuse why they want to be priests.
So if youre thinking "but im older now, they will never want me". Think again, they want you even more now. And if youre thinking "i dont have money to pay for books, theology is hard". No, dont think that, they pay for the books themselves, they help you study too. There are nuns, they also pay for your clothing ifyou dont have the money. What im saying is, money is not an issue in the church. Youre never going without food, never going without clothing or books. Youre taken care of.
Now lets talk about theology or philosophy, one of these 2 is required to be catholic priest. I cannot speak of other religions this is the one i know more. Its required quite a lot of study this is true. But as I said before its possible and people will help you. The job is not payed very well, you will earn scraps. But the benefit is that you no longer are required to compete in the ratrace because "priest" is a separated social role with benefits.
You dont even have to marry, this act of social conformity is spared on priests. So if you were an awkward autistic who hated the idea of "girlfriend experience" you are even more suited to be a priest. And trust me, in society nobody bats an eye if a priest does not have iphone or does not have a luxurious car. Youre basically going to enjoy a separated privileged social status that has exceptions.
Now, the last part. Youre thinking "but priests dont get pussy". Nah, they do. In every parish there are prostitution "scandals". While in orthodox countries what is scandalous is if priests get pussy of whores, in catholic countries what is scandalous is when priests fuck boys. But a priest who fucks whores is no scandal at all. So youre pretty much covered 100%. Which is why incel men are better priests.
It all came to my mind when an old doctor told me that all my problems culd be fixed and he said I could become priest. Its easy, basically they fix every single thing you suffer from. Housing, job, education, they got it all fixed.
If you enter seminary and youre not young, they consider it even better because you had your revelation later. At least where I live, converting to christianity when youre older is widely respected and is interpreted as a call from god, or a person with "sincere beliefs". Instead is very common to expect youth to not be sincere and to invent some excuse why they want to be priests.
So if youre thinking "but im older now, they will never want me". Think again, they want you even more now. And if youre thinking "i dont have money to pay for books, theology is hard". No, dont think that, they pay for the books themselves, they help you study too. There are nuns, they also pay for your clothing ifyou dont have the money. What im saying is, money is not an issue in the church. Youre never going without food, never going without clothing or books. Youre taken care of.
Now lets talk about theology or philosophy, one of these 2 is required to be catholic priest. I cannot speak of other religions this is the one i know more. Its required quite a lot of study this is true. But as I said before its possible and people will help you. The job is not payed very well, you will earn scraps. But the benefit is that you no longer are required to compete in the ratrace because "priest" is a separated social role with benefits.
You dont even have to marry, this act of social conformity is spared on priests. So if you were an awkward autistic who hated the idea of "girlfriend experience" you are even more suited to be a priest. And trust me, in society nobody bats an eye if a priest does not have iphone or does not have a luxurious car. Youre basically going to enjoy a separated privileged social status that has exceptions.
Now, the last part. Youre thinking "but priests dont get pussy". Nah, they do. In every parish there are prostitution "scandals". While in orthodox countries what is scandalous is if priests get pussy of whores, in catholic countries what is scandalous is when priests fuck boys. But a priest who fucks whores is no scandal at all. So youre pretty much covered 100%. Which is why incel men are better priests.
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There were, some also became saints or church leaders. For example one that inspired me years ago was Saint Macarius of Egypt but you can consider his story more like MGTOW than incel.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:59 There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
Because he was falsely accused by the feminism of his times of having impregnated a girl, he didnt do it. And what was happening in the past is some chad fucked a girl and they beat to death some incel to marry him to her.
But this dude refused to take the chad's whore and they beat him to near death experience. He still refuses.
After that, he went away from society, created a cult at Scete, refused marriage and became a saint. The girl later said the truth and she said she didnt fuck with him but it was Chad.
This is a story of inceldom (more like MGTOW but similar) and there are other as well. Is one that inspired me the most because is similar to other situations I saw in today times .
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In the past, chads would basically have sex with a girl and incel men would pay for it. Its similar in today times. This idea incel men had it easy at one point in history may be true in some instances, in some super particular contexts. But ovearall, no, incel men never had it easy. In many ways we have it easier now, think of all the coping we can do with porn and hentai.
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Sustacel250 wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 13:44There were, some also became saints or church leaders. For example one that inspired me years ago was Saint Macarius of Egypt but you can consider his story more like MGTOW than incel.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:59 There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
Because he was falsely accused by the feminism of his times of having impregnated a girl, he didnt do it. And what was happening in the past is some chad fucked a girl and they beat to death some incel to marry him to her.
But this dude refused to take the chad's whore and they beat him to near death experience. He still refuses.
After that, he went away from society, created a cult at Scete, refused marriage and became a saint. The girl later said the truth and she said she didnt fuck with him but it was Chad.
This is a story of inceldom (more like MGTOW but similar) and there are other as well. Is one that inspired me the most because is similar to other situations I saw in today times .
It seems to me to be a question of causation in order to determine the extent and even existence of incels in those primitive times. I would assert that the saintly nature and sincere religious convictions of those men who aspired to renounce the materialism, sinfulness and debauchery of this world caused their inceldom rather then to suggest that it was their inceldom that inspired them to achieve such a pious life of asceticism and devotionalism.
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General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 13:25Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:59
There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
I suppose when the IPF breaks into worldly success, you will have the pick of the finest stacies, and then I will have second pick, and Tovarishcel third, and then the red soldiers, and then the yelllow comrades
There might be nothing left for the bluecels.....or worse than nothing
Well in theory, yes that is the way that conquering armies have distributed the spoils of war since time immemorial and we can see fine and honorable examples of this principle in action in places like Burma where the army goes into villages and the senior officers take the hottest asian MILF's for themselves while the lowliest privates and child soldiers may have to contend themselves with effete and feminine looking boys. See the film Rambo (2008) for an excellent and edifying depiction of how foids are dispersed after military conquest in Burma. But as for the future IPF, there will be more then enough stacy-tier foids to satiate the carnal lustings of the entire officer corps as well as to provide rape fodder for even some of the lowest ranking soldiers. By the time we adjudicate the entitlements of our pajeet rape zombies, then we may have to begin contemplating assigning becky tier foids as compensation for their honorable exploits.
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Absolutely, I am convined in the past true men of faith, people we considered saints, had the balls to renounce a life of shit and feces. I also 100% agree with buddha at least when he says poor people can never attain enlightenment because if youre poor you have nothing to renounce. Only if youre a rich person who KNOWS what is the material good life, then you can confidently deny it and pursue higher truer paths. This is what many incels did I have proof by the way.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 14:41 It seems to me to be a question of causation in order to determine the extent and even existence of incels in those primitive times. I would assert that the saintly nature and sincere religious convictions of those men who aspired to renounce the materialism, sinfulness and debauchery of this world caused their inceldom rather then to suggest that it was their inceldom that inspired them to achieve such a pious life of asceticism and devotionalism.
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Shit I’m cool with the 4th pick. I’d be happy with a beautiful and feminine mid 7.General Alek wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 13:25Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:59
There were no incels in those ancient times, only higher and lower status men who were accorded women as befit their standing, station and rank in the tribe.
I suppose when the IPF breaks into worldly success, you will have the pick of the finest stacies, and then I will have second pick, and Tovarishcel third, and then the red soldiers, and then the yelllow comrades
There might be nothing left for the bluecels.....or worse than nothing
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Jehovah had to kill people in the Old Testament because they were wicked and disobeying His commandments. That’s like when He had to flood the earth and had Noah build the ark to save the animals. That’s why He made the rainbow as a promise to never flood the earth again. Also the New Testament says the promise of “God’s chosen people” applies to Christians. The Jews take scripture out of context and trick ignorant Christians into sending money to Israel. The Bible isn’t “dramatic fiction” it says a lot of the same shit as the Holy Quran. For example the book of Jonah in the Bible is basically the same shit as the story of Jonah in the Quran. So if you’re saying the Bible is “fiction” that’s like saying the Quran is “fiction.”Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:50KingDavid wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:44King Solomon from the Old Testament had 700 wives and 300 concubines as well as immense wealth.Darth_aurelius wrote: 03 Nov 2025, 12:22
The Church before the reformation was actually filled with priests, prelates, friars, monks and other religious men of holy orders who, notwithstanding their vows of chastity, poverty (for those in the monastic orders) and obedience, often lived ostentatious lives of splendid wealth, temporal power and were attended to by many hot medieval Stacy's. The duplicity and corruption of the Church was one of the primary causes of the Protestant Reformation and Luther's 95 thesis was filled with invectives against these practices.
I personally think that the Church should allow priests and other high ranking sacerdotal officers to avail themselves of harlots, be granted great personal wealth in the form of fine luxury SUV's and richly appointed homes and have great power over their parishioners. If Catholicism regressed back to the medieval form of rule, it would inspire many young men, incels and normies alike, to enthusiastically swear fealty to their Lord God Jesus Christ and serve their pontifical overlord in Rome.
Yes but the Old Testament and particularly the blood stained pages of Exodus, Leviticus and Deuteronomy are filled with all manner of moral insanity, genocidal injunctions and religious propaganda meant to vindicate the unconscionable behavior of Yahweh's chosen people that I ascribe no historical veracity or ethical import to its teachings. The Bible in general is a piecemeal document that of course had been cobbled together over many centuries and the fact that Christ was sent by His divine Father to fulfill the ancient prophesies of the Pentateuch means that Christianity must incorporate the lunacy of the Old Testament which I find to be nothing more then a work of dramatic fiction.
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