Anyone else on here see themselves in Alek Minassian and the Lord Elliot Rodger?

[SonOfElliotRodger]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

[General Alek]

That would be a "yes"

[Darth_aurelius]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

Not so much Alek since while I regard him as someone who was courageous and honorable in his commitment to nearly attaining martyrdom on behalf the cause of incel revolution, I believe that he lacked the eloquence and rhetorical skill to cogently articulate both his motives and his principles. This is why it is so vitally important that any aspiring martyrs fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse, so as to better convey the significance of their deeds and leverage the fame they acquire to enhance and empower their cause.

In contrast to this common foot soldier (PVT Alek), the brilliant and ingenuous Saint Elliot, peace be upon Him, was more akin to a great military commander or revolutionary leader, both of which I not only see myself as being but actually can be said to be on the basis of my experiences and current status. The life course and cumulative experiences of Saint Elliot were likewise very representative of my own in that I too am a higher tier normie, though with a heroic and musclemaxxed physique worthy of the strongest Mujahedeen of Lashkar e-Taiba, come from an elite and upper class background, have had many privilege's bestowed upon me by virtue of my wealth and status and see myself as vastly superior both intellectually, morally, physically and in terms of intrinsic human value to approximately 99.9999% of normies.

[Sustacel250]

ER yes, alek no. I didnt care much about alek.

ER wrote a manifesto that for many reasons relates to my life experience in multiple levels. First off I was his same generation, and his life coincided with mine in many regards. The exp of ER in gaming community probably relates to my whole generation, because we were invaded by normies in video games. We really seen what was before and what became after normie invasion, so ER description matches.

The poetry of ER is cool, his quotes inspired me, I would say he also persuaded me even if I dont agree much at all with his emotional interpretations.

I must tell you I also was of the idea normies deserve a lesson, or I always thought normies should get killed. I am not ashamed at all to admit it. It was a fantasy of mine, I was considering it divine retribution for all the suffering normies cause to others.

[General Alek]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

Not so much Alek since while I regard him as someone who was courageous and honorable in his commitment to nearly attaining martyrdom on behalf the cause of incel revolution, I believe that he lacked the eloquence and rhetorical skill to cogently articulate both his motives and his principles. This is why it is so vitally important that any aspiring martyrs fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse, so as to better convey the significance of their deeds and leverage the fame they acquire to enhance and empower their cause.

In contrast to this common foot soldier (PVT Alek), the brilliant and ingenuous Saint Elliot, peace be upon Him, was more akin to a great military commander or revolutionary leader, both of which I not only see myself as being but actually can be said to be on the basis of my experiences and current status. The life course and cumulative experiences of Saint Elliot were likewise very representative of my own in that I too am a higher tier normie, though with a heroic and musclemaxxed physique worthy of the strongest Mujahedeen of Lashkar e-Taiba, come from an elite and upper class background, have had many privilege's bestowed upon me by virtue of my wealth and status and see myself as vastly superior both intellectually, morally, physically and in terms of intrinsic human value to approximately 99.9999% of normies.

Alek's interview proves his eloquence and rhetorical skill

He developed and improved on Elliot

[Sustacel250]

fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse

No i disagree. I think the best manifesto was mc veigh because was short. Breivik instead wrote a whole book, it became a TLDR and the more you write the more you expose your own flaws, you give too much away of yourself.

Elliot Rodger was perfect, his manifesto is a life story, so that also works.

My preference goes for Marinetti futurist manifesto because is short to the extreme but the slogans are all poetic and aggressive, so it was theatrical and very cool looking.

The one I dislike the most is unabomber, i think is the worse of all. Basically he did what you advise, he assimilated too much ideology. Hes too theoretical and did not credit the intellectuals he was copypasting. Too analytical, this is always a mistake because your analysis can be wrong. You can contradict yourself. You can do a claim, and say radical action can provoke social change. Well, that can be tested, it has been tested. So if you memorize too much ideology you become refutable.

Marinetti instead cannot be refuted. Its all 100% aesthetic and publicity. A proper "manifesto" for real. Or also MCVweigh works because MC veigh writes as if is a declaration of intents nothing more. ER works too because its his life story, theres nothing there and his "ideology" is to be extracted from various quotes, its not systematized.

[Darth_aurelius]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

Not so much Alek since while I regard him as someone who was courageous and honorable in his commitment to nearly attaining martyrdom on behalf the cause of incel revolution, I believe that he lacked the eloquence and rhetorical skill to cogently articulate both his motives and his principles. This is why it is so vitally important that any aspiring martyrs fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse, so as to better convey the significance of their deeds and leverage the fame they acquire to enhance and empower their cause.

In contrast to this common foot soldier (PVT Alek), the brilliant and ingenuous Saint Elliot, peace be upon Him, was more akin to a great military commander or revolutionary leader, both of which I not only see myself as being but actually can be said to be on the basis of my experiences and current status. The life course and cumulative experiences of Saint Elliot were likewise very representative of my own in that I too am a higher tier normie, though with a heroic and musclemaxxed physique worthy of the strongest Mujahedeen of Lashkar e-Taiba, come from an elite and upper class background, have had many privilege's bestowed upon me by virtue of my wealth and status and see myself as vastly superior both intellectually, morally, physically and in terms of intrinsic human value to approximately 99.9999% of normies.

Alek's interview proves his eloquence and rhetorical skill

He developed and improved on Elliot

Somehow I knew you were going to make another guest appearance here in this thread after I posted what I did. We already went down this rabbit hole before and I don't want to relitigate the matter with you once again. I don't think you and I are seeing the same footage and hearing the same audio since the Alek who I am listening to is clearly unable to make a cogent, convincing and compelling case or even one which evinces a scintilla of rationality for what he was trying to do.

Conversely, the eloquence and rhetorical brilliance of almighty Lord Elliot, Peace be upon Him forever, is comparable to the most enchanting prose I have ever had the pleasure of beholding and is absolutely magical in its impact on the reader. His autobiographical narrative keeps the audience engaged with his salacious tales of horrific suffering, immiserating dejection and unspeakable privation whilst his literary competency and extensive lexicon enable him to convey his intentions with precision and exactitude.

[Darth_aurelius]

fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse

No i disagree. I think the best manifesto was mc veigh because was short. Breivik instead wrote a whole book, it became a TLDR and the more you write the more you expose your own flaws, you give too much away of yourself.

Elliot Rodger was perfect, his manifesto is a life story, so that also works.

My preference goes for Marinetti futurist manifesto because is short to the extreme but the slogans are all poetic and aggressive, so it was theatrical and very cool looking.

The one I dislike the most is unabomber, i think is the worse of all. Basically he did what you advise, he assimilated too much ideology. Hes too theoretical and did not credit the intellectuals he was copypasting. Too analytical, this is always a mistake because your analysis can be wrong. You can contradict yourself. You can do a claim, and say radical action can provoke social change. Well, that can be tested, it has been tested. So if you memorize too much ideology you become refutable.

Marinetti instead cannot be refuted. Its all 100% aesthetic and publicity. A proper "manifesto" for real. Or also MCVweigh works because MC veigh writes as if is a declaration of intents nothing more. ER works too because its his life story, theres nothing there and his "ideology" is to be extracted from various quotes, its not systematized.

You are misconstruing what I said. I agree with the point about Kaczynski and the reason his writings were as inaccessible as something that Nietzsche would have composed was because he was an intellectual and an academic accustomed to writing in peer review journals and otherwise publishing for a more learned audience. I can read and make perfect sense of his manifesto and even write something comparable to it but most people lack the literary training and analytical skill to be able to properly comprehend that style of prose.

For me, the autobiography of Trotsky or the writings of our beloved Fuhrer would serve as two representative samples of ideal manifestos as they convey the substance of the ideology but render it in a way that places the grievances in a familiar and knowable historical or sociological context. Much of the success of the authors can also be ascribed to their masterful communication skills and understanding of the human psyche, both of which were qualities that Kaczynski lacked due to his isolation in the ivory tower of academia.

[Sustacel250]

For me, the autobiography of Trotsky or the writings of our beloved Fuhrer would serve as two representative samples of ideal manifestos as they convey the substance of the ideology but render it in a way that places the grievances in a familiar and knowable historical or sociological context. Much of the success of the authors can also be ascribed to their masterful communication skills and understanding of the human psyche, both of which were qualities that Kaczynski lacked due to his isolation in the ivory tower of academia.

Im not well read on hitler but he does seem a fitting example because he was super relatable and in tune with vibes and memetic. Good example. Didnt read trotsky either. But I did read tons of anarchy "saints" manifestos. I was thinking for a while incels on the internet were inspired by "saints" (they were called that way, the bombers who suicided to send a message) but it wasnt the case. Incels simply came up with the term "saint" on their own, but is surely a curious coincidence.

Would you say the raskolnikov character is that type of person you were describing? I mean someone whos aware of people psyche. People like that can do appeals to universal human issues like "I dont get pussy". ER did it. Thats the perfect manifesto right there.

[Darth_aurelius]

For me, the autobiography of Trotsky or the writings of our beloved Fuhrer would serve as two representative samples of ideal manifestos as they convey the substance of the ideology but render it in a way that places the grievances in a familiar and knowable historical or sociological context. Much of the success of the authors can also be ascribed to their masterful communication skills and understanding of the human psyche, both of which were qualities that Kaczynski lacked due to his isolation in the ivory tower of academia.

Im not well read on hitler but he does seem a fitting example because he was super relatable and in tune with vibes and memetic. Good example. Didnt read trotsky either. But I did read tons of anarchy "saints" manifestos. I was thinking for a while incels on the internet were inspired by "saints" (they were called that way, the bombers who suicided to send a message) but it wasnt the case. Incels simply came up with the term "saint" on their own, but is surely a curious coincidence.

Would you say the raskolnikov character is that type of person you were describing? I mean someone whos aware of people psyche. People like that can do appeals to universal human issues like "I dont get pussy". ER did it. Thats the perfect manifesto right there.

It's been two decades since I last read Dostoyevsky so my recollection is too imprecise to be able to give you an intelligible answer. I would say that Lord Elliot, PBUH, is actually an excellent example along with Hitler and Trotsky whose verbal fluency and rhetorical brilliance enabled them to express themselves in a very relatable way and to make their respective cases.

[SonOfElliotRodger]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

Not so much Alek since while I regard him as someone who was courageous and honorable in his commitment to nearly attaining martyrdom on behalf the cause of incel revolution, I believe that he lacked the eloquence and rhetorical skill to cogently articulate both his motives and his principles. This is why it is so vitally important that any aspiring martyrs fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse, so as to better convey the significance of their deeds and leverage the fame they acquire to enhance and empower their cause.

In contrast to this common foot soldier (PVT Alek), the brilliant and ingenuous Saint Elliot, peace be upon Him, was more akin to a great military commander or revolutionary leader, both of which I not only see myself as being but actually can be said to be on the basis of my experiences and current status. The life course and cumulative experiences of Saint Elliot were likewise very representative of my own in that I too am a higher tier normie, though with a heroic and musclemaxxed physique worthy of the strongest Mujahedeen of Lashkar e-Taiba, come from an elite and upper class background, have had many privilege's bestowed upon me by virtue of my wealth and status and see myself as vastly superior both intellectually, morally, physically and in terms of intrinsic human value to approximately 99.9999% of normies.

I definitely those striking similarities between yourself and The Lord Elliot! Wealth and privilege do get you far in life and thus lead to more levels of sophistication.

[Massimo]

I see myself as Eliott Rodger sometimes I would like to think that he's looking down on me.

[Darth_aurelius]

I see myself in both of them.

With regards to St. Alek I see that him and I are both on the spectrum, both middle class, interest in the military, and are second generation.

With regards to Lord Elliot I see him and I are both on the spectrum with a lot of similarities noted as I read his manifesto "My Twisted World."
In particular when being around girls, social anxiety and seeing all the successful chads and normie tier dudes banging Stacies and high tier beckies and a lot of other concepts which are too much to share in just one post but will post soon.

Not so much Alek since while I regard him as someone who was courageous and honorable in his commitment to nearly attaining martyrdom on behalf the cause of incel revolution, I believe that he lacked the eloquence and rhetorical skill to cogently articulate both his motives and his principles. This is why it is so vitally important that any aspiring martyrs fully assimilate the ideology which they ostensibly espouse, so as to better convey the significance of their deeds and leverage the fame they acquire to enhance and empower their cause.

In contrast to this common foot soldier (PVT Alek), the brilliant and ingenuous Saint Elliot, peace be upon Him, was more akin to a great military commander or revolutionary leader, both of which I not only see myself as being but actually can be said to be on the basis of my experiences and current status. The life course and cumulative experiences of Saint Elliot were likewise very representative of my own in that I too am a higher tier normie, though with a heroic and musclemaxxed physique worthy of the strongest Mujahedeen of Lashkar e-Taiba, come from an elite and upper class background, have had many privilege's bestowed upon me by virtue of my wealth and status and see myself as vastly superior both intellectually, morally, physically and in terms of intrinsic human value to approximately 99.9999% of normies.

I definitely those striking similarities between yourself and The Lord Elliot! Wealth and privilege do get you far in life and thus lead to more levels of sophistication.

I would hasten to add the fact that like Saint Elliot, PBUH, I too am grievously insulted by the fact that women rarely even notice me despite the fact that I am far superior in nearly every measurable way to the men whom they lavish their love, attention and sexual pleasures upon. I am far more deserving then the overwhelming majority of normie tier men who appear to me to mostly be fat, ignorant semi-retarded slobs as I am highly sophisticated, urbane, hyper educated, tall and as fit and as muscle maxxed as a Jihad warrior of Hezbollah.

[Darth_aurelius]

I see myself as Eliott Rodger sometimes I would like to think that he's looking down on me.

I truly believe that He looks down upon all of his disciples in the IPF with great pride, satisfaction and pleasure at our glorious strivings on His behalf and in His holy and sanctified name.

[Massimo]

I see myself as Eliott Rodger sometimes I would like to think that he's looking down on me.

I truly believe that He looks down upon all of his disciples in the IPF with great pride, satisfaction and pleasure at our glorious strivings on His behalf and in His holy and sanctified name.

I hope that he is up there happy knowing that we continue where he left off because he wasn't the last.